Material under carpet


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By RayCarter18 - 10 Years Ago
I had pulled the carpet in the cab of my 63 f100 up to pull the panel for the trans. Does anyone know what the black material is that was under the carpet and over the metal. Any help would be appreciated.
By ian57tbird - 10 Years Ago
I removed the old insulation from my TBird and much of it was black and sticky due to I think oil vapours finding their way in over the years.
By MoonShadow - 10 Years Ago
I believe its call Jute padding. Today they use a kind of foam mix. Go to Home Depot and get some of their sticky back insulation by the rolls. Chuck
By RayCarter18 - 10 Years Ago
Ok thanks
By RayCarter18 - 10 Years Ago
Is it suppose to be waterproof?
By MoonShadow - 10 Years Ago
I don't think so. Most of what I've seen would get wet if you had a leak. The insulation from HD is not only a padding but will help hold down heat and noise. Just like the stuff the car mags sell. Chuck
By paul2748 - 10 Years Ago
In the early TBirds, Ford used a tar paper like sheeting next to the metal.  Over this was the jute and carpeting.  It might have been for waterproofing, but we all know how good that was.  I assume it was used in other models, including trucks.
By miker - 10 Years Ago
I chipped all that out of my 'bird, it was hard as a rock. And rusted underneath. POR-15, or equivalent for the rust. Peel and Seal roofing from HD, or dynamat, or the cheaper competitors. I think some of it was originally used as sort of insulation, but more to stop the floors from "oil canning". I've done two cars and a motorhome with the cheaper stuff, black rubber, peel off backing, self adhesive, foil on top. Put it down with my Formica rollers. Makes huge difference in noise and heat transmission. You can also line the inside of the doors and the trunk for your boom-boom speakers. No, I didn't.

I used cheaper foam padding from a carpet store remnants, then the carpet.
By lyonroad - 10 Years Ago
MoonShadow (1/24/2015)
I believe its call Jute padding. Today they use a kind of foam mix. Go to Home Depot and get some of their sticky back insulation by the rolls. Chuck


Moonshadow, do you have a name for the Home Depot insulation.  I did my pickup with Hushmat (similar to Dynamat - silver on top) which is quite expensive.  If the Home Depot stuff works I would l like to use it in my car.
Thanks
By MoonShadow - 10 Years Ago
Most home stores have peel and stick insulation in various sizes and thicknesses. I don't know the name for the product at Home Depot but I do plan to look before I put my Vicky back together in the spring. Chuck
By miker - 10 Years Ago
Mark, best my memory recalls, it really is Peel and Seal. I think it's made to repair flat tar roofs. Might also find something similar in the RV market for leaks around seams. The last stuff we used on my friends car was for tank and piping insulation in industrial applications. He had a friend in that business.
By ian57tbird - 10 Years Ago
The typical insulation used over this part of the world for cars is a compressed cotton sheeting. the great thing about that is it stretches and you can form it to the floor and tunnel shape. I managed to insulate from the rear wheel arches all the way up the firewall in one piece and only did one cut where the tunnel meets the firewall and in the end I wondered if I could got away without doing any cut.
Have you tried motor trimmers to see what they use? That is where I got mine from. 
By lyonroad - 10 Years Ago
Thanks miker and moonshadow.  I already have a roll of the peal and stick stuff that used to repair the built in gutter on my house.  I never dreamed it would work on the floor of the car.  The stuff I have has a red vinyl coating.  It came with a spray can of activator that makes it well  "stick like glue".  You learn something new every day.
By jrw429 - 10 Years Ago
Is this what is being discussed?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/GAF-QuickStart-Peel-and-Stick-Starter-Roll-1122000FR/203225503
By dbird - 10 Years Ago
This is what I used, black and tar-like adhesive on one side, aluminum on the other.  Three rolls did the floor of the trunk and the floorpan from the back of the seat forward, but little on the firewall.  Originally I was going to only get two, but three pushed me into three.  I'm glad I did so I could completely to the trunk.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_154017-81326-PS625_0__?productId=1018733&Ntt=

Don
By lyonroad - 10 Years Ago
The stuff I saw at my local Home Depot is called Blue Skin, but I didn't look in the insulation section.  I might check out the Lowes product.

Just went to my local Lowes.  Not available in Canada.  Weird eh.  I'll have to wait until I go across the line.  Interesting that most of the revues of this product on the Lowes site refer to using it in automobiles.
By dbird - 10 Years Ago
My local store didn't carry it, so I ordered it online.  The three rolls came to over $49 so shipping was free.  I didn't see anything about not shipping to Canada, so it might be worth a try, or as you say pick some up next time you cross the border.  You might consider ordering it online and having it shipped to the closest US store a little before your next visit so it will be there.

Don

By lyonroad - 10 Years Ago
Thanks Don.  I didn't even think of ordering it on line from Lowes, even though I do that all the time for other places like Summit, etc.  I actually have an account with a place in Point Roberts WA that will receive and hold my shipments. I was just thinking of an excuse to head over the line for a plate of oysters.