Wheel hop


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By Dave V - 10 Years Ago
Finally got my 57 312 running good in my 56 Victoria. Doesn't have a problem spinning the tires but has way too much wheel hop. What's the procedure for eliminating it?  Dave V
By 5d6fairlane - 10 Years Ago
This what I will be going with. When I get it going that is.

http://www.calvertracing.com/caltracs.html
By Ted - 10 Years Ago
The wheel hop is caused by the rear spring trying to wrap around upon itself.  Using a set of traction bars that minimizes that wrap up is the most common fix.  Adding another leaf or two to each side is another option as that simply stiffens up the rear spring assembly.  On the old drag cars, it was not unusual to wrap the rear leaf springs with black plastic tape to keep all the leafs from splitting apart during acceleration which in turn made the springs stronger as a unit.  On my ’67 Comet drag car, I had steel clamps at the ends of the various springs to keep the springs together as a unit.
By charliemccraney - 10 Years Ago
5d6fairlane (3/29/2015)
This what I will be going with. When I get it going that is.

http://www.calvertracing.com/caltracs.html

The caltracs eliminated my hop and actually seemed to make the truck ride better, so they get my vote, too.

By Rono - 10 Years Ago
I used a set of vintage Lakewood traction bars I found at a swap meet on my 56 and that helped a lot. I looked at the Calvert website, but it looks like their parts are only for Scrubs.
Rono
By charliemccraney - 10 Years Ago
Last time I checked, they had parts listed for many makes.  Regardless, the traction bar components are fairly universal, so if they don't list your specific application, they very likely have what you need ready to go.
By Lou - 10 Years Ago

When putting Tacktion Masters on a 50/60s Ford they go on the longest part of the spring, usually the rear haft.

By MoonShadow - 10 Years Ago
I don't think I've ever seen traction bars mounted on the rear of springs. Longest spring seems to make some sense but? Calvert has been a source for the 50's Fords for a while but when I contacted them they wanted me to send measurements so they could "make them up". I know they have done 55-56 cars but you have to contact them. How do the Calvert bars compare, in performance, to standard traction bars? Chuck
By 5d6fairlane - 10 Years Ago
Fill out this form at caltracs and they will make them $339 plus shipping.

By Larry D - 10 Years Ago
I run a vintage set of TractionMaster bars on my '58.  That cured the problem.
By charliemccraney - 10 Years Ago
Quite a few of the stock chassis cars at Columbus use the caltracs.  While you may have to fill out the dimension sheet if they haven't put together a specific part number, they may not have to make anything up because the rear suspension mounting points are fairly universal between different cars and makes.
How do they compare?  Don't know.  But they work for me (and seem to work for others), have the ability to preload the suspension, which is not a feature of all traction bars and don't have any negative effect on everyday road worthiness, which is great for a street vehicle.
By Dave V - 10 Years Ago
Thanks for the replies.  Is one style less obvious as seen from a distant whereas it wouldn't hurt the looks of the vehicle?  Dave V
By MoonShadow - 10 Years Ago
There are traction bars that mount above the springs called over riders. They are a bit more complicated to install but are supposed to work the same. I was looking at them because my car is lowered and the normal traction bars were too close to the ground. They would have hit with a flat rear tire. Not good at speed. Chuck
By slumlord444 - 10 Years Ago
I have heard a lot about the Caltracs on this forum but this is the first time I have seen them. They look a lot like the original Traction Masters with the advantage of being adjustable. Back in the day I made a set of home made traction masters and they worked great with street tires and the 6" recap slicks I used then. I went to bolt on slapper bars later on when I got into nostalga racing  in the1980's and they worked well with the same tires. I am going to install an old original set of traction masters this time. A big point with them is to have the car siting on the ground when you attach the front mount. I will have to see how this works with more horsepower and better tires that I will be using now. Another thing that I did back when I put the home made traction masters on was to switch to /57 Ford station wagon springs that are still on the car. The stiffer springs would have helped also. Has serious wheel hop problems before this. Managed to break a rear spring while racing a '65 Mustang on the street.
By Dave V - 10 Years Ago
I checked out some of the options @ Jegs, Summit and Speedway and think I like the Caltracs best. I'll see how involved it is with their order spec sheet.  Thanks for the input.  Dave V
By charliemccraney - 10 Years Ago
Regarding visibility,  Most traction bars cannot be seen unless you are on the ground, looking at the suspension.  There are exceptions, but they are few.  On higher vehicles, such as my truck, they are easier to see.  I can see them through the rear wheel well and the axle brackets can be seen from the rear from a short distance away.  They're black, so they don't stand out.
By Y block Billy - 10 Years Ago
If I think of it tonight I will take a pic of my home made ones. I took a lerge thick truck leaf spring, installed it under my original set and put a roller skate rubber on the tip, very inconspicuous but works great, havent had wheel hop since. Traction is a different story, need slicks.
By gyrogary - 10 Years Ago
Build your own. Check out how to build modern traction bars.


http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/a17b6720-2ecd-413f-bc84-e0cc.jpg
Caltrac's working hard to screw a Y-Block into mother earth.
By Y block Billy - 10 Years Ago
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/3bcdad1c-2b2f-4af4-add4-6c6f.jpgThis is what I was talking about, very inconspicuous!
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/uploads/images/2e57c9f5-4300-4a2f-99cc-baa6.jpg
By MoonShadow - 10 Years Ago
Leave it to you Bill. Clever use of a truck spring as a slapper bar. That would be a simple fix on my Vicky. It sits so low that a bolt on bar on the spring mount is too low. Chuck
By Dave V - 10 Years Ago
Excellent idea Bill. Love it.  Dave V