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By bobo1 - 10 Years Ago
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Hello , ater my brake problem , I would like to put on my Y bloc Lincoln a MSD distributor , I would like to know how much degree beforehand you put with this distributor ?
For the new carburator can I adapte a new carburator with this adaptator ? And if is ok what do you thhink for a new carburator : 600 or 650 cfm ?
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By charliemccraney - 10 Years Ago
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The advance curve really is something you have to figure out on your own. 24 to 26 degrees by 3000rpm, with 10 -12 degrees initial will be a good starting point.
The adapter looks like it should work. You might need to re route your vacuum line or use a spacer under it to clear the line, though. You probably don't need anything much bigger than a vacuum secondary 600 if the engine is stock.
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By bobo1 - 10 Years Ago
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Thanks for your andswer yes my engine is stock
what sort of spark plug can I put on ?
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By RB - 10 Years Ago
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Make sure you have the correct distributor gear for the Lincoln.. They are not the same as the Y block.. 600cfm carb is plenty. Yes that adapter will work. If it is a stock cam, set it up for about 12 degrees initial adavance and about 34 total at 3000 rpm. I use Autolite 45 plugs. Autolite 124 is a colder plug but the 45 should be good for your application.
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By DryLakesRacer - 10 Years Ago
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There are no after market carb with the fuel line directly center rear. For the most part they are on the right side facing right and either at the front for Holleys and rear for Edelbrock/Carters. Holley makes a 465 cfm which is often overlooked. Good luck
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By bobo1 - 10 Years Ago
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RB (5/22/2015)
Make sure you have the correct distributor gear for the Lincoln.. They are not the same as the Y block.. 600cfm carb is plenty. Yes that adapter will work. If it is a stock cam, set it up for about 12 degrees initial adavance and about 34 total at 3000 rpm. I use Autolite 45 plugs. Autolite 124 is a colder plug but the 45 should be good for your application.
Thanks for your answer , but my English is not very good , I don't understand when you say : Make sure you have the correct distributor gear for the Lincoln
Ok I'm going to buy Autolite 45 plugs Which space puts has you on électrodes plugs ?
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By Ted - 10 Years Ago
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Too much confusion comes from calling the 317-368 Lincoln engines Y engines. The 368 and other LYB (Lincoln Y-Block) engines use a 15 tooth distributor gear while the ’55 and up 272/292/312 Y engines use a 14 tooth gear. If you have the MSD #8383 distributor for the 292/312 Y engines, then the distributor gear will need to be changed out accordingly so the distributor will work in the LYB engines. Be sure to check that the distributor shaft sizes where the gear rides is the same on both distributors before attempting to move the distributor gears around.
Here’s the link to an older thread basically discussing the same distributor gear incompatibility issue. http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/FindPost35890.aspx
The general rule for spark plug gaps is 0.035” with a carburetor regardless of being point or electronic ignition. With the leaner mixtures afforded by a fuel injection system, then the spark plug gap can be made larger than this but this requires considerably more voltage. As the compression ratio goes up or if running an engine with boost, the spark plug gap is further reduced simply due to increased cylinder pressures putting a strain on existing ignition voltage capabilities.
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By RB - 10 Years Ago
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If you order a distributor gear from MSD for a 390 Ford you will have the correct gear for your 368.
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By bobo1 - 10 Years Ago
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Ted (5/23/2015)
...The 368 and other LYB (Lincoln Y-Block) engines use a 15 tooth distributor gear while the ’55 and up 272/292/312 Y engines use a 14 tooth gear. If you have the MSD #8383 distributor for the 292/312 Y engines, then the distributor gear will need to be changed out accordingly so the distributor will work in the LYB engines. Be sure to check that the distributor shaft sizes where the gear rides is the same on both distributors before attempting to move the distributor gears around. ...
Very thank ,yes it's a MSD 8383 ,I'm going to change the distributor gear
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By bobo1 - 10 Years Ago
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RB (5/23/2015)
If you order a distributor gear from MSD for a 390 Ford you will have the correct gear for your 368.
very thank to I'm going to see if it not the same on my orriginal distriboutor 368
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By cliffs 56 lincoln - 10 Years Ago
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i put a 57 distrbuter and a holley 600 on my 56 lincoln but you will need a 1 inch spacer on the manifold to lift the carb high enough to clear the vacum port on the manifold and hook up your power brakes to back of carb
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By bobo1 - 10 Years Ago
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cliffs 56 lincoln (5/25/2015)
i put a 57 distrbuter and a holley 600 on my 56 lincoln but you will need a 1 inch spacer on the manifold to lift the carb high enough to clear the vacum port on the manifold and hook up your power brakes to back of carb
Ok thank I think I'm going to put on a Edelbrock carb 
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By bobo1 - 10 Years Ago
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I just have to receive the new maniifold with carburator
Can I put it on my car , what are the other difference between my engine and M335
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By bobo1 - 10 Years Ago
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But for the moment I drive with this carburator , I'm very happy it's a new car now
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By Ted - 10 Years Ago
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bobo1 (6/9/2015)
I just have to receive the new maniifold with carburetor Can I put it on my car , what are the other difference between my engine and M335
While I’m not aware of the specific parts that make up the M335 engine combination, I don’t see any reason the dual quad setup cannot be used on a stock 368 engine for simply cruising around. Accelerator linkages and radiator hose may have to be modified appropriately but that should be about it as far as the installation goes. Depending upon the carbs being used, there may be some jetting and secondary flap changes necessary to get the drivability right. As far as the parts that make up the M335 engine, Tom or Royce may be able to chime in with the details.
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By bobo1 - 10 Years Ago
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I have just put the M335 manifold on my Lincoln engine I would like to if with this new manifold I can keep set it up for about 12 degrees initial adavance and about 34 total at 3000 rpm. I use Autolite 45 plugs s it good with the new manifold I have a stock cam
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By bobo1 - 10 Years Ago
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Nobody ???
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By Ted - 10 Years Ago
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Your installation looks nice. While your timing curve sounds adequate, the fuel composition and octane rating you are running will dictate the exact curve that’s required. Varying the ignition curves and test driving each will in most instances get you close.
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By bobo1 - 10 Years Ago
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Ted (8/29/2015)
Your installation looks nice. While your timing curve sounds adequate, the fuel composition and octane rating you are running will dictate the exact curve that’s required. Varying the ignition curves and test driving each will in most instances get you close.
Thank you Ted
Where can I fend a performance Cam for my 368 Y Block ?
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By Ted - 10 Years Ago
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The last cam I purchased for a LYB engine came from Nielson Cams. Here’s their link.
http://www.nielsoncams.com/
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By DryLakesRacer - 10 Years Ago
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You need to find a stock dual 4 barrel air cleaner off of some car to make it look stock. There are repops out there for 409's and Cadillacs batwing style. A new base out of aluminum for your carb spacing would be easy. I would even make an entire one out of aluminum welding a circle to a 2 or 3" side ring. Finish it by painting it gloss black and adding a service decal off some factory air cleaner unit... Good Luck.... I look cool and any engine looks better with dual quads.
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By RB - 10 Years Ago
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For a camshaft you will probably have to have your stock one reground..Blanks are almost impossible to find.. As far as the grind. several people have told me they were ground by Clay Smith with the spec being their 270X grind. The M335 engines were all assembled in the shop of Bill Stroppe and Associates in Long Beach. These are basically hand built and blueprinted motors. As far as i know they were all stick cars so they had a special aluminum bellhousing. Other unique items would be the cast M 335 valve covers, twin Holley 4bbl vac secondary carbs, special air cleaner.
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By Oldmics - 10 Years Ago
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I have repros of the original M 335 air cleaners available.
Oldmics@Yahoo.com
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By bobo1 - 10 Years Ago
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Thank you Ted I'm going to send him a E.mail
DryLakesRacer (8/29/2015)
You need to find a stock dual 4 barrel air cleaner off of some car to make it look stock. There are repops out there for 409's and Cadillacs batwing style. A new base out of aluminum for your carb spacing would be easy. I would even make an entire one out of aluminum welding a circle to a 2 or 3" side ring. Finish it by painting it gloss black and adding a service decal off some factory air cleaner unit... Good Luck.... I look cool and any engine looks better with dual quads.
You are right, this Winter I am going to redo the engine and to paint it in black, what do you think of , yes I'm going to change the air cleaner but when I buy the manufold they are on
RB (8/29/2015)
For a camshaft you will probably have to have your stock one reground..Blanks are almost impossible to find.. As far as the grind. several people have told me they were ground by Clay Smith with the spec being their 270X grind. The M335 engines were all assembled in the shop of Bill Stroppe and Associates in Long Beach. These are basically hand built and blueprinted motors. As far as i know they were all stick cars so they had a special aluminum bellhousing. Other unique items would be the cast M 335 valve covers, twin Holley 4bbl vac secondary carbs, special air cleaner.
Thank you RB for your good explanations to I was told that you were the person has to contact for M335 what youdo think of ditributor regulation and plug I have to mention higher
Thank you Oldmics I have just to send you a E.mail , do you think I can put your air cleaners on Holley carburator ?
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By RB - 10 Years Ago
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I think your distributor curve will be fine. I use Autolite 45, NGK WR5, or Champion RF11YC. I gap mine at .035 On a stock engine you do not want to use a cold plug
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By bobo1 - 10 Years Ago
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RB (8/31/2015)
I think your distributor curve will be fine. I use Autolite 45, NGK WR5, or Champion RF11YC. I gap mine at .035 On a stock engine you do not want to use a cold plug
Very thanks RB 
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