adjustment valves for 239


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By fabien13 - 9 Years Ago
could you tell me the game rocker for a block is 239, I have not found this info on my technical book, thank you to you ...! I advance..!! the automatic transmission is done !!...thank you very much !! see U !
Fabien
By Cliff - 9 Years Ago
What is a game rocker?
By NoShortcuts - 9 Years Ago
Fabien.  Like Cliff, I have no idea what component(s) you are referring to on a 239 y-block.
By fabien13 - 9 Years Ago
hahaha .....it s Valve lash ajust for Y block 239..!! Smile sorry !! how many ?  How to gap ? Smile) thanks guys !!BigGrin
By fabien13 - 9 Years Ago
ho top , i find this post !!! perfect !!   0.019".....or 0.48 mm ...whaou...is it is very big gap ... as my gap is currently not even 0.2 mm or 0.0078"


Y-Block enthusiast, let’s talk valve lash. As y-blocks have no hydraulic lifters, it is necessary to adjust the tappets quit often. Unfortunately, the use of a feeler gauge is satisfactory only if the rocker faces are in good condition. If the rocker faces have wear pockets, from contacting the valve stem, the use of a feeler gauge will provide results which are little better than calculated guessing, as the gap will always be greater than the thickness of the feeler gauge due to said condition.

About fifty years ago when solid lifters were most common, a tool was developed for adjusting valve lash, utilizing a dial indicator, called a P&G Valve Gapper. These tools were supplied with specific adapters for different makes of engines, including y-block Fords, by P&G manufacturing Co. of Portland, Or., but to the best of my knowledge they no longer exist. Can anyone expand on the existence of this company or a source of this tool, or parts thereof? I have found a few at swap meets but not in the last decade. This is the finest tool ever developed for adjusting solid lifter equipped overhead tappets as anyone who owns one would testify.

For those of you without the luxury of such a precision tool, may I suggest a very satisfactory method alternative to feeler gauges anyone can perform without special tools.

The tappet adjust screw is 20 threads per inch thus 1 full turn represents .050 of linear travel. It works just like a micrometer. Multiply 1 turn of travel times existing rocker ratio. Example, .050x1.54 = .077. As you can deduct, one full turn of the adjust screw used in a 1.54 ratio rocker will represent .077 of tappet clearance. Now divide one turn of tappet clearance i.e, .077 by 60 as in the 60 minutes of a clock face. This number is .001283 = 1 minute of clock face rotation. Thus 15 minuets of rotation will =.192 Very close to .019 which is the specification for valve tappet clearance on 292 and 312 engines. 15 minutes clock rotation = 90 degrees rotation, an increment most auto enthusiast can easily estimate quit closely.

Get into the engine, with the lifter all the down obtain some tappet clearance then carefully rotate the adjust screw clockwise to obtain .000 valve lash. Just touching but not depressing the valve. Now rotate the adjust screw counterclockwise 90 degrees. The resulting clearance should be very, very close to .019 regardless of rocker arm face wear.

If adjusting 1.43 ratio rockers rotate the adjust screw 16 min. of rotation ccw. To obtain .01906 clearance. Very, very ,very close.

In order to determine the ratio of said rocker, observe the # on the side. 1.54 rockers are marked ECG 6564-B2 or “B1 I am led to believe any rocker with B1 or B2 suffix will be a 1.54 ratio rocker and all those without suffixes will be 1.43 ratio.
By Ted - 9 Years Ago
Here is a past thread covering several different methods of adjusting the valve lash on the Y engines and others with solid lifters.
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/Topic8614.aspx
By 62bigwindow - 9 Years Ago
Does the adjustment have to be made warm? Can .002 be added and adjust them cold?
By Ted - 9 Years Ago
62bigwindow (11/10/2016)
Does the adjustment have to be made warm? Can .002" be added and adjust them cold?

While valve adjustments are more accurate if performed when the engine is warmed up, setting them on a cold engine will get you close if taking into consideration the particular engine being worked on.  Iron headed engines typically like a slightly looser lash setting for cold versus hot simply due to the pushrods and valves expanding some as they warm up.  Aluminum headed engines on the other hand prefers a tighter lash when cold versus hot due to the heads expanding up and away from the camshaft as the engine gets warmer.  For a Y with iron heads, 0.001”-0.002” looser valve lash when cold will get you close to the desired hot lash.  For a Y with aluminum heads, setting the lash 0.006” tighter when cold will get you in the ball park when the engine is warmed up.