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By ejstith - 17 Years Ago
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Does anybody know what the castings or description would be for a '56 Ford OD tranny? I have been lookin' for a T-85 but they are scarce and are high as hell if ya find one. I'm about ready to settle for a regular '56 OD. I'm not goin' to be doin' any burn outs or slammin' gears so I think it will work .. How can I tell one if I see one? I'm goin' to the show at Moultie GA next month and to Turkey Rod Run. What do you think one is worth?
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By pegleg - 17 Years Ago
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The standard unit would be the T-86 with an R 10 od unit. If you're not concerned with originality you might think about the later Toploader OD. Be a lot cheaper, but it'll require a later clutch disc and a floor shift.
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By ejstith - 17 Years Ago
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Yeah, I sort of want to stay away from a floor shift for now. Do you know how to identify that T-86? I'll be looking for one at Moultie and Daytona next month. Thanks ... p/s, love that '57. Have you seen the red one on ebay with the SOHC motor in it?
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By pegleg - 17 Years Ago
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The T-85 has a rounded cover the t-86 is square. The OD will have the R10 or R11 in block letters on the case. The T-86 is appearantly a lot more common than the 85's. Not as strong though.
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By ejstith - 17 Years Ago
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Thanks Frank, yeah I know, that T-85 was a strong one. Had one in a 57 w/a 324" 312, cammed and carb'd. Never did tear it up, just swapped it for a T-10. Do you know if it's the same dimensions as the regular 3 speed or will I have to do some drive line stuff?
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By Doug T - 17 Years Ago
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I would not use a T86 and the small OD with a heavier car and good motor. Ford put T 85's with R11 0D's in all T birds with 312's because the T 86 and R10's were not strong enough. The R 11 OD has 4 pinions the R 10 has only 3. I used to tear up the little tranys with a 312 in a '54. I believe you will be able to find a T85/R11 and it is a direct identical bolt in for the standard trany including shift linkage. You might need a different clutch to fit the trany spline depending on what you have now.
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By ejstith - 17 Years Ago
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Doug T (10/22/2008)
I would not use a T86 and the small OD with a heavier car and good motor. Ford put T 85's with R11 0D's in all T birds with 312's because the T 86 and R10's were notstrong enough. The R 11 OD has 4 pinions the R 10 has only3. I used to tear up the little tranys with a 312 in a '54.
I believe youwill be able to find a T85/R11 and it is a direct identical bolt in for the standard trany including shift linkage. You might need a different clutch to fit the tranyspline depending on what you have now.
Thanks Doug. I'll look at Moultrie and Turkey Run. If I don't find something there half way reasonable I'll probably look for the puny one. I'm not going to do any burn outs or gear slammin' like I did back in the day. I just have a hard time forkin' over $400 or $500 for a T-85 and the only one I've seen for sale was $450. I have a 272 with a "dress up" 4bbl and that's it. Under normal drivin' the OD's that came in them must have worked and should be just as strong as the 3 speed that's in there now. If I was goin' to put a ton of money in it I'd probably just bite the bullet and put a T-5 in it but I really don't want a floor shift ...
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By Jim Rowe - 17 Years Ago
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I have a T-85 / R-11 that came from a FE 390 motor in a Ford station wagon. It should be REAL STRONG. I will sell it for $250. Where are you located?
I am in eastern Nebraska.
Let me know if your interested.
Jim Rowe
Cell: 402-681-1770
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By ejstith - 17 Years Ago
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I am in Tallahassee FL. I am interested .. where are you?
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By ejstith - 17 Years Ago
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I will be in Missouri for Christmas. Maybe we can work something out ..
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By ejstith - 17 Years Ago
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Is like 400 miles from Mo to there .. would probably be cheaper to ship it somehow .. The gas to come there would probably be more than shippin' ..
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By Jim Rowe - 17 Years Ago
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I live in a suburb of Omaha, NE. Eastern part of the state. 3 hours north of KC, MO.
Let me know.
Jim
Cell: 402-681-1770
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By ejstith - 17 Years Ago
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Got any idea what it weighs or how much it would be to ship it to FL? It's heavy I know that. Would probably have to be by freight like CFI or somebody like that .. ??
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By Jim Rowe - 17 Years Ago
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I will weigh the trans. I will also check into freight costs. I will advise. Might be late next week. I am headed for SEMA in Las Vegas.
Jim
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By Doug T - 17 Years Ago
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Gents you could check Greyhound for shipping the trany. I don't know what they think about weight but they are pretty reasonable on big volume stuff like fenders and doors and such. You need to drop it off and pick it up at a terminal.
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By MoonShadow - 17 Years Ago
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I've had good luck with FedEx. If you can put the tranny on a pallett and strap it down they will take it. I've sent some boat engine parts to CA that way and the price was reasonable. Check them out. Chuck in NH
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By ejstith - 17 Years Ago
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Thanks y'all. I'm thinking right now that I may just come and get it when I go to MO for Christmas. May cost more but I haven't been to Omaha since I was a kid. I was born across the river at Council Bluffs IA so I may just come up and look around there. Would be a good little side trip. Does anyone know if the T-85 is a direct bolt in ie: cross member mounts, linkage etc?
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By ejstith - 17 Years Ago
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Did we ever decide if the T-85 is a direct bolt in or not? Did we find out what one weighed?
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By pegleg - 17 Years Ago
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That depends on what the T-85 comes out of. There are different versions with different spline sizes and tailshaft lengths. I'm sure that a pass car version will fit, but the truck types will require modificatons.
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By ejstith - 17 Years Ago
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The one in question here came out of a Ford station wagon he said.
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By pegleg - 17 Years Ago
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About all you can do is ask him to measure the OA length, count the front splines and measure the input and oputput shaft diameters. I have parts of two, the truck unit has a very short Tailshaft and a HUGE output shaft. The other one is a standard passanger car and would interchange with the std three speed. Except for the length.
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By rexbd - 17 Years Ago
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shipped a toploader in an old ammunition crate. Put it in the crate and strapped it down and put a zip cord through the lock . Easy to carry with the handles on the end and tranny was protected.
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By ejstith - 17 Years Ago
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rexbd (11/17/2008)
shipped a toploader in an old ammunition crate. Put it in the crate and strapped it down and put a zip cord through the lock . Easy to carry with the handles on the end and tranny was protected.
Good idea, where'd ya get the ammo crate? I was looking at those plastic containers the other day. If I go get it I'll just put it in something like that to keep the gooey off of everything else.
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