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By Hollow Head - 16 Years Ago
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http://www.cars-on-line.com/39648.html Real or not?
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By Hoosier Hurricane - 16 Years Ago
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Seppo: It is possibly for real, Ford did offer the blower in all models that year. There was a rumor that one was sold new about 20 miles from my present home, but I have never subtantiated that. That seems like a lot of money for a project car, but someone will probably buy it and restore it for resale at one of the high roller auctions. I recently heard that the first '55 T-Bird sold for $600,000 and a '57 F Bird sold for $165,000, both restored cars.
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By Don Woodruff - 16 Years Ago
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If I recall correctly some one used to race one in the NHRA stock class, do not know if it was "real" but it was back in the day so it may have been. Edit to add, Lot of parts to find yet.
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By PF Arcand - 16 Years Ago
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Don: Yes, there was at least one F code Skyliner sold, and at least one was raced regularly. It is currently owned by Frank Stubbs in Washington state. It was pictured on the front cover of the 2005 Concours Parts catalog.
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By Hoosier Hurricane - 16 Years Ago
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Paul: The car of Stubbs' may be the one that was raced in Illinois by George Chaltin (sp) in NHRA Stock Eliminator. Larry Evenson, the owner of Concours, had purchased the car, may have sold it to Stubbs. That could be the connection to the Concours catalog. A friend of mine, Dick Hilt, from Indy, told me this story. He was racing a '59 scrub 348, tri-power, 4 speed in B/S at the Nationals. In those days, class winners raced heads up for Top, Middle, and Little Stock eliminators. Dick said he was running the blown Skyliner, had him covered through the first 3 gears, and when he hit 4th that D/SA Ford just blew by him for the round win.
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By ejstith - 16 Years Ago
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But is says it has a 352 in it now. What does that mean? He has the original motor? Or he has a 312 donor car and the pieces to supercharge it? I'm not sure I understand exactly what the deal is. If it doesn't have the matching numbers engine/body then there's no way he's gonna get top dollar out of it. He may get a lot just because it's a flip top, and maybe more just because it could be supercharged, but to get the toppest dollar it would have to all match up. Right?
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By pegleg - 16 Years Ago
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Looks to me as though it has most of the F code parts with it. The only thing that might be missing and difficult to find would be the EDB heads. Most of us use 471's now, but a concours resto should have the originals. If it's all there, it's most likely worth a bunch.
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By Ol Ford Guy - 16 Years Ago
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I saw George Chaltins F Skyliner run back in the day. I have an article on the car that I will copy and send to anyone who really wants to read about it. The car ran low 15's and 14's in NHRA stock trim. Frank Stubb's owns the car now. I believe it was converted from stick to Fordomatic. The last time I saw George, he was running a 57 Fairlane 2 door, yellow and white, at the Indianapolis NHRA Nationals...1963? The F car won A/S several times at the NHRA Nationals. Reportedly, the lighter Fairlane didn't hook up as well.
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By PF Arcand - 16 Years Ago
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I'm reasonably sure the current on line car in Wisconsin is not the Washington Stubbs car.
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By paul2748 - 16 Years Ago
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ejstith (1/22/2009)
But is says it has a 352 in it now. What does that mean? He has the original motor? Or he has a 312 donor car and the pieces to supercharge it? I'm not sure I understand exactly what the deal is. If it doesn't have the matching numbers engine/body then there's no way he's gonna get top dollar out of it. He may get a lot just because it's a flip top, and maybe more just because it could be supercharged, but to get the toppest dollar it would have to all match up. Right?
It looks like the parts car will supply most everything to convert it back, including the blower which is already included. Remember, for Ford there is little for a "numbers matching car" except for casting numbers on heads and block (engine wise) plus some other minor items. As mentioned, the correct heads may be a problem but a guy I know may have these (for a price).
Putting an FE into a 57 requires no major work, so it easy to convert it back.
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By bird55 - 16 Years Ago
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Hoosier Hurricane (1/22/2009)
Paul:
The car of Stubbs' may be the one that was raced in Illinois by George Chaltin (sp) in NHRA Stock Eliminator. Larry Evenson, the owner of Concours, had purchased the car, may have sold it to Stubbs. That could be the connection to the Concours catalog.
A friend of mine, Dick Hilt, from Indy, told me this story. He was racing a '59 scrub 348, tri-power, 4 speedin B/S at the Nationals. In those days, class winners raced heads up for Top, Middle, and Little Stock eliminators. Dick said he was running the blown Skyliner, had him covered through the first 3 gears, and when he hit 4th that D/SA Ford just blew by him for the round win.
I could be wrong but technically the engine never did match in these old cars . The engines aren't serialized. Just frame and body. "Matching numbers" is Barrett-Jackson/Corvette speak. I hope I'm right
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By PWH42 - 16 Years Ago
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In about 60 or 61 I got badly beaten one Sunday at Terre Haute by a black blown 57 Skyliner.Is that the car being referred to? At the time I was running a 57 scrub with a 270 horse 283 that had been warmed up pretty well.
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By Hollow Head - 16 Years Ago
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Paul, no wonder that you then switched to Ford  . Yeah, just kidding.... It's nice to dig old mens memories and learn history by that way. Thanks to all you old guys. Tell us more experiences from old drags you have done. Wins and loses  .
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By PF Arcand - 16 Years Ago
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As I understand it, Alan is correct. There are correct casting numbers for the various Y-Block powered vehicles in the USA, but the engines were not serial numbered to match up with the VIN number. This may not be entirely true on Canadian built cars, but I'm no sure on that point. ?
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By Hollow Head - 16 Years Ago
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At least one '57 Rachero exists with F-code engine. 
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By aussiebill - 16 Years Ago
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Seppo, tell us about the blown 57 ranchero you refer to, interested, thanks. aussie bill.
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By Don Woodruff - 16 Years Ago
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I saw a F code Ranchero sold on auction in Wisconsin years ago. This was a on the ground rusted ouf hulk and it sold for about 120+K. It has a FE installed.It included a original set of heads, parts block and a Series 1 supercharger (sandcast housing) brackets for a VR57 and a bunch of parts. Was bought by some one in the Minneapolis Minn. area. Several months later I believe the Ranchero was advertized in Hemmings for the bid ammount. About the only thing good on the Ranchero was the Data plate. Really Really rough.
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By Oldmics - 16 Years Ago
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Heres a link to Frank Stubbs,"F" code 57 Ford wagon. http://mustangfords.automotive.com/43155/mufp-0605-1957-ford-thunderbird/index.html http://www.mustangandfords.com/featuredvehicles/mufp_0605_1957_ford_thunderbird/technical_information.html
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By Hoosier Hurricane - 16 Years Ago
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There was an F code Ranchero pictured in, I believe, Collectible Automobiles magazine 2-3 years ago. Also, several years ago I sold, for a friend, his F powered D code wagon drag car. It went to California, the buyer supposedly had an F Ranchero with the wrong engine. The wagon ended up in the East without the F engine. One would assume that the wagon's engine ended up in the Ranchero.
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By Johnson Rod - 16 Years Ago
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And then there is Sweet Heart...
The url was removed as it is pointing to a page that will install malicious software to your computer. Sorry to have to do it but we don't allow it.
(edited by Jim Culver, Site Owner)
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By Oldmics - 16 Years Ago
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Very cool car,but since it is a 56 it cant be a unit installed from the factory. Still awesome machine.  Oldmics
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By Hollow Head - 16 Years Ago
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The Ranchero I saw was in Mustangs & Fords magazine and it was red. This auction would have been nice to visit... http://info.detnews.com/joyrides/story/index.cfm?id=645 What a collection .
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By Johnson Rod - 16 Years Ago
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The url was removed as it is pointing to a page that will install malicious software to your computer. Sorry to have to do it but we don't allow it.
(edited by Jim Culver, Site Owner)
Jim,
Not sure what that means, but I didn’t mean any harm. I was just posting a picture of a Supercharged '56 Parklane.
Did I break the rules by posting another sites url? I've seen this site referred to in the past on this site, in fact I believe it used to be on your links page??
Could you explain so I don't make that mistake again??
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By Hollow Head - 16 Years Ago
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Johnson Rod, I think Jim did that because in some sites there is programs that try to install screen savers or other stuff on every computer that opens those sites. It's annoying and it's better to keep those of from these sites. So nothing personal...
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By Johnson Rod - 16 Years Ago
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Seppo,
Didn't take it personal, just wanted to know the WHY? so I didn't repeat the mistake. Never seen that before??
I've never had a problem with the Ranchwagon site and has some good info for Y-Blockers like installing a GM alternator...
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By Ted - 16 Years Ago
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Johnson Rod. You didn’t do anything wrong. Link posting in general is typically a good thing. The site in which you posted the link for now installs ‘malicious’ software on the users computer when you go there but you had no idea of that without the proper software on your own computer in which to detect that. If you don’t have programs on your end to alert you of this as it happens, then your own computer gets this software installed without your knowledge and ultimately creates problems. Jim simply came across this by simply clicking on it and then deleted the link to protect the forum members. If anyone wants to go to the site on their own, then at the very mininum they’ve been forewarned but at least it isn’t a direct link from this site. Just think of Jim as our first line of defense against ‘cyber terrorism’.
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