By simplyconnected - 16 Years Ago
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I'm looking for opinions and history on this one. Both systems do just about the same thing. They totally eliminate your points without changing your stock distributor, and they use your car's stock coil. How they go about it differs vastly. Pertronix uses a hall-effect system, which is magnetic (kinda like a coil pickup). Accel uses an infra-red diode with a shutter (basically a shutter-interrupted electric eye). My question concerns longevity and failure. Should I let the money speak for itself, or is the Pertronix system really worth twice as much? I've always heard good things about these systems, but I would like to hear 'the other side'. I'm shopping online at Amazon.com for my '59 Galaxie. Pertronix 91281 Ignitor Ii Frd Dst 57-74 - Pertronix $98.55 ACCEL 2020 Point Eliminator Kit - Accel $48.07 - Dave
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By mctim64 - 16 Years Ago
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This one here will work for you, I have Petronix in four of my cars and have had nothing but good luck with them. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pertronix-Ignitor-1281-FORD-64-00-TO-YOUR-DOOR_W0QQitemZ110344220562QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item110344220562&_trksid=p4506.m20.l1116
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By oldcarmark - 16 Years Ago
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I bought the Accel kit on Ebay and it was easy to install,works fine and NO problems with it.If you are interested in one of these they are usually well priced on Ebay.Search Accel2020.The Pertronix system is available for less from several sources like Macs antique auto parts(who is also selling on Ebay) and Tee-Bird.com for example.
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By Tom Compton - 16 Years Ago
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Check Jegs or Summit for a Crane electronic conversion. I like the built in rev limiter. TC
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By GREENBIRD56 - 16 Years Ago
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I've got a Ford DURASPARK II adapted to mine. The stator/reluctor detector parts inside the dizzy literally never fail (mine spent 165,000 miles in an F-150 before I put it in the Bird). The controller units are available anywhere anytime - cheap. The controller unit is divorced from the dizzy - so you can hide it in an easily serviced location. Plug in connection takes seconds. Controller has a starting retard built right in (-6°) when you connect the white trigger wire to the starter solenoid. Power transistor will handle a coil with 1.2 OHMs internal resistance and no ballast resistor. Can be built with all Ford parts. Also can use the Ford detector directly with an MSD red box and MSD patch cord. Or............... Can operate with Ford detector and GM style 4-pin modules (that have extended dwell as RPM increases).
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By 55Birdman - 16 Years Ago
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I have had a petronix in my bird for 9 years . Never an issue of any kind. I would go with the Ford Duraspark. They are available ,cheap, and easy to assemble and never any trouble. And its a Ford prduct.
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By simplyconnected - 16 Years Ago
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AZ28 (4/10/2009) I've got a Ford DURASPARK II adapted to mine...Steve, you got me going now. How is your distributor adapted? Did you grind-off the octagon for the reluctor fitment? Or, does someone sell a Duraspark II distributor for the Y-Block? I really would like to stay with Ford products. The day before yesterday, I called Pertronix in San Dimas, CA. I got a canned voice-mail message saying they will get back. So far, they never did. Considering Pertronix's Customer Support, I will buy the Duraspark setup and feed my Y-Block spark plugs with real Ford power.
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By speedpro56 - 16 Years Ago
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My way of thinking is when a manufacture stands behind and uses a product like ford with duraspark then I'm sold. I have used the pertronics and it works fine but the duraspark seems to be the best of the two I've used and way better than points.
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By pegleg - 16 Years Ago
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I rebuilt a later Ford distributor, did the weights and springs and installed a Pertronix. I sent it to Mummert to install in my engine. He promptly removed the Pertronix and stuck a duraspark in it. The Duraspark has been in there for 4 or 5 years now, gone a best of 13.50 @ 106, and still works. The Pertronix is sitting on a shelf, I'll sell it cheap........any takers?
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By GREENBIRD56 - 16 Years Ago
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So is it "simply" or maybe Dave? The cam has to be removed from the Autolite(?) style distributor - and grinding, as you suggested will get the hardend part out of the way so a machinist can finish the job..... 
I've got a PDF file of the machining dimensions if you'll PM me an email address. If you want a better "curve" in there this diagram shows a way to get a reduced mechanical advance if you have one with a bigger slot...... 
I've got a wiring schematic I used on the bird too if you want something to start with to base your own set-up.
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By GREENBIRD56 - 16 Years Ago
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Just about forgot - this is the stuff you'll need from another, later distributor to replace the point plate with the electronic detector..... 
The vacuum pot will need to match the later systems - one with the "dog leg" operating arm. You'll end up with this....... 
I used the larger 80's cap and a "TFI" type coil to finish the job..... 
The coil and bracket are from a Ford "Probe" - with the bracket inverted to offset the coil away from the carb.
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By simplyconnected - 16 Years Ago
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[quote]AZ28 (4/11/2009) ...this is the stuff you'll need from another, later distributor to replace the point plate with the electronic detector.....The vacuum pot will need to match the later systems - one with the "dog leg" operating arm. You'll end up with this....... I used the larger 80's cap and a "TFI" type coil to finish the job..... [quote] Wow! Thanks for the pictures and the info, Steve. Just a few 'fuzzy' points left; * I understand a '57 and later distributor will work. How much later? Did they use Y-Block dizzys on 289's? Or, did the Y have it's own unique dizzy? * What model years was the Duraspark II used (so I can order the right parts)? Looks like I'm headed to the auto parts store for everything unless I can find a junk yard that still has 1980's Ford cars (none of ours do). BTW, 'simplyconnected' is my screen name for: AOL Comcast.net AACA (Antique site) BAM (Mustang site) eBay (here and other places) Use whichever name is convenient for you. I'm listed in the phone book with the same number since 1971. Dave Dare, Royal Oak, MI
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By pegleg - 16 Years Ago
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Dave, 289's won't work. up to '62 292 trucks use the distributor you'll want. The adance slot will be wrong,you'll need to find or modify your slots as Steve said. The truck distributor will have more mechanical than you'll need. The reason being, you'll want more initial advance than factory specs, somewhere in the 10 to 12 degree area. And around 36 to 40 total mechanical will be close. If you have 10 initial and 13 distributor ( or 26 crank) you end up at 36 total. As far as h years or the plates. I'd look for an early 90's or late 80's unit. Pretty much any 5 liter from the 8o's will work
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By GREENBIRD56 - 16 Years Ago
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Here is a quick shot of which is which..... Early Autolite version has concentric rings on the shaft housing just above the clamping flange... 
Late Motorcraft version looks like the 289/302 (three lobed housing) above the clamping flange......... 
The late 70's - early 80's Motorcraft parts will fit onto the earlier Autolite version - after you modify the upper rotor shaft as shown previously. If you start with a later Motorcraft Y distributor you will want to find an upper rotor shaft like this one....... 
The "13L" slot will set the total mechanical advance at 13° distributor/ 26° crank.
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By MP&C - 16 Years Ago
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I have a 1952 F7 (ex-firetruck) 279 Lincoln, with the governed carburetor distributor and associated headaches. If wanting to do the duraspark install, would I be better off with a later 312 (car) distributor or the 60's version of the truck distributor mentioned above as my starting point? I have been told the Ford Y block distributor will work in the Lincoln if I change out the drive gear to an FE gear. I already have the later oil pump and hex drive oil pump shaft to change out the tang drive. Thanks, Robert
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By GREENBIRD56 - 16 Years Ago
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I'm the wrong guy to ask about the Lincoln conversion - not something I've worked on. But if such a change is workable (a direct change of the drive gear and oil pump drive shaft) - I think you will be better served by the '64 truck 292 service distributor as a starting point.
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By MP&C - 16 Years Ago
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Thanks for the response. I got the rebuilt 64 292 distributor on order today. The Mustang distributor was too short when compared to the Lincoln original, so the drive gear would not have worked without changing shafts. The 292 should only need a drive gear change and drop in. (fingers crossed) I'll keep ya posted.
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By ejstith - 16 Years Ago
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Mallory electronic ignition here. Mallory high output coil (gets rid of the resistor) Mallory cap & rotor. Summit. 1959 distributor in a '56 Ford. Works great and was a piece of cake to install.
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