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By cbass139 - 16 Years Ago
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So I have been working on getting the timing right on my '58 f100 292 with the help of some on this site and it was going ok but last night it went bad, real bad. I was trying to get the timing right and checked everything and sure enough it appeared that it was a tooth off so I go ahead and move it and at the same time I fix the leak in the carb. When I go to start it up to dial it in, it wont start. I work on it for a while making sure to line up the distributor with the timing marks and all of this but it wont start. Of course I am doing this at work so 3hrs later the battery is dead. I charge the battery and while I am doing this I work on the distributor some more and finally think that I have it all set. I start it up and yes it starts. I am sitting there waiting for it to warm up an letting it build a good charge and it just dies. now the battery is still dead and so I try to jump it and sure enough I burn out the starter, all I get it a click. at this point it is 2am and I have been working on this for 9 hrs at work. I push it into the parking garage (which, to sound like my grandfather, was uphill both ways) and go to bed. I woke up this morning and tell the guys at work and they say we will push start it if it is just the starter. Well we get it started and I am as happy as a pig in sh** but it is blowing white smoke out the back and reaks of gas although the carb is not leaking anymore. I let it warm up for a good long while and go to drive home. I get four blocks from home and it is driving like crap and starts poping and blowing black smoke. I pull over and it stalls, so instead of messing with it anymore I just call a tow truck and now it sits in my garage. I am going to pull the carb and rebuild it (was this weeks project anyway) and I am ordering a hi rev starter to replace the old one. I alread have a ignitor and flamethrower on the way with new plug wires and plugs. Please let me know if any of you can see something that could be causing this that I am not seeing? 
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By 55Birdman - 16 Years Ago
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Maybe the coil, condenser are on their way out. I had a car that did that and the coil was bad. When it got hot it just quit. Had to wait till it cooled to restart it. Those kind of issues are what my dad called hairpullers. Nothing seemed to work. I should know I am almost bald .
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By Pete 55Tbird - 16 Years Ago
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cbass139 Fist off, I think that we have all been where you are right now. Can you give us some more background info about your 58F100? How long have you had it and what do you know about it? When you removed and replaced the distributor how did you determine TDC (top dead center) so as to set the point at which the spark fires? Did you have ANY backfires while doing this? Check for a blown powervalve in your carb. It will be easier if you work one system at a time. Get the distributor and timing sorted out then the carb. Are you sure the starter is fried and not just a weak battery? Turn on the headlites and try to start. If the headlites stay bright then maybe. If the headlites dim, check the battery. Remember, the more info we have to work with the better answer to your problem. Keep us posted. Pete
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By cbass139 - 16 Years Ago
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Pete, I have had the truck for like two months but have driven it strong for that time, over 300 miles just to get it home. It just needed some tweeking to run to its best but as I said I may have made it worse (well I did for sure). The battery was dead but I charged it and used the lights trick to make sure the starter was burnt up and it is. I dont know if it would have backfired after I pulled the distributor because I never got it running before putting it back. Also I used the timing marks to determine TDC and made a couple of rotations to make sure it was correct. I plan on rebuilding the carb so if it has any problems I hope to get those fixed then, power valve and all. I know you said to start with one system at a time but you need each to work for the truck to run and they all seam off enough to make it not run thus the need to work on all a little to get it started and then I can dial each in individually. Let me know if you need any more info, would love the help. Thanks Cbass
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By oldcarmark - 16 Years Ago
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Sorry to hear you are having trouble.Were you having any similar problems before you moved the distributor.I think you may be 2 teeth off from where you were not one.Suggest you take off the passenger side rocker cover.No#1 cylinder is the front one.Rotate the motor by hand until the timing marks are aligned with the pointer.If both valves are closed on #1 you have tdc.If not both closed rotate 1 more complete turn and check again.Now is the distributor rotor at #1 in the firing order(the cap is marked with a 1)I think you may find its off which means pulling the distributor and reinserting one tooth the other way unless you have enough room to turn the distributor so rotor is at #1..Don't feel you are the only one who has done this.Took me several tries on mine before I got the timing back where it would run.By the way if you leave the rocker cover off until you get it running don't worry about oil splashing everywhere.Doesn't happen with a y-block.Hope this helps you!
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By paul2748 - 16 Years Ago
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I agree with oldcar. Sounds more like a timing issue. If the carb is not spewing gas any more, doubt its the carb. If you messed with the plug wires, double check they are in the right order.
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By cbass139 - 16 Years Ago
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Ok, I am putting in the flamethrower and the old coil had other wire attached to it besides the three that are usually hooked up to it. Can anybody tell me what else might be hooked up to the coil? Are these supposed to be wired hot to the positive side of the coil?
Thanks
Cbass
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By unibodyboy - 16 Years Ago
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Just a thought, but my 62 wiring diagram shows an externally resisted coil, with the resistor wire being inline from the ignition switch. You might want to check that before you install your 12 volt coil, as it may not work if you have a resistor wire inline still.
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By cbass139 - 16 Years Ago
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I did notice that too and bypassed the resistor, now I need to know what else is connected to the coil and if it is supposed to be connected to the possitive terminal?
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