By 63 Red Stake Bed - 16 Years Ago
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I am ready to ditch the Eddy carb for a Demon. I would like to know if anyone here has tried the Road Demon 525 on a street Y block with mild cam? It says that you can use it for cams up to 220 @ .050. I have an E-4 so should work? I like that the road demon has the 4 corner idle, & the adjustable air bleed, & also the quick access secondary diaphram cover. The Jigantic fuel bowls don't really serve any purpose for me, but they sure are shiny! I would like to order it soon, so I can put it on this weekend. Also, do the demon's have a pvc port at the front of the carb?? I don't want to go backwards on the pvc since i use the eddy for that currently.
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By mctim64 - 16 Years Ago
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I would go with the "Road Demon Jr." 525 since it has the single fuel inlet and Vacuum secondaries. I have used these with a lot hotter cam than they say you should and have had great results.
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By 63 Red Stake Bed - 16 Years Ago
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The single inlet is a plus.. Does the Road Demon JR have an adjustable air bleed?? I never saw where it did..
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By kidcourier - 16 Years Ago
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I went with the "Road Demon" 525 and it has vacuum secondaries also,it's on my 272 with Crane cam,BT aluminum manifold,Red's headers,and MSD dist. and coil.It's a humongus carb,about twice the size of my Holly 600,I wasn't able to run a carb spacer,had to bolt it straight to the manifold(Blue Thunder) and ran a 1 1/2" K/N air filter an barely able to close the hood on my '57.Also it has dual fuel inlets on passenger side and duel vacuum ports in front on same side(one being ported),due to not having a carb spacer the chrome dual feed gas line set up wouldn't work(hit the manifold) ended up using a SS braided line from Jegs setup for the Road Demon. Also you'll have to reroute your fuel line from the fuel pump to passanger side of carb.But all n all it fires right up every time,runs great(I thought the cfm would be to much) no bog,and plugs read lite tan. KID
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By Ted - 16 Years Ago
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My ’55 Customline has the 525 cfm Road Demon Jr. on a +020” over 272 with the Isky E4 camshaft. T-85 overdrive with 3.55:1 rear gears and runs great with good fuel economy. There is a PCV valve port on the carb. The only flaw I found in the carb was the hole for the ported vacuum being too high above the primary throttle blades and I simply drilled a new hole in the appropriate position with a new vacuum port to the outside so that the distributor could get a stronger vacuum signal during cruise situations. 
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By 63 Red Stake Bed - 16 Years Ago
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Ordered and just rec'd the Road Demon 525.. This thing looks huge! I love the different sized Annular boosters.. What did you fellas do as far as Jetting goes?? I like to get an idea of what someone else's baseline was compared to bolt on....
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By kidcourier - 16 Years Ago
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See above for engine setup--- I'm running #68 jets in primaries(downsized)/secondaries are what came with the carb from factory. KID
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By GREENBIRD56 - 16 Years Ago
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If it argues with you on the initial tune - try shutting down the "four corner" idle on the back bores. I had one of the big bowl Road Demons on a 289 and the extra adjustment of the secondary "drips" were a pain. Finally just shut them off. But the huge bowls supply plenty of fuel for instantaneous demand - and the easy tune vacuum pot is good feature. I've got the Road Demon Jr. on my 312 and the primary idle only - suits me fine. Bowls are smaller - but they don't dwarf the engine either.
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By 63 Red Stake Bed - 16 Years Ago
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ok, so the dual inlet is a PAIN in theA$$! I ended up slightly bending the front short tube to clear the manifold & the trans cooler line that goes to the factory cruise-o-matic. I did use my 1" spacer, & had to move the coil to the firewall to also clear the fuel inlet. Kid - you mentioned you used # 68 jets? Mine came with 58's, & a 6.5 powervalve. the thing is way rich & was chugging initially just to stay running so I swapped the power valve for a new 7.5. The four corner idle is proving to be just as kid mentioned a pain initially. I ended up closing the secondary's nearly all the way, & it really functions more like a 3 corner idle since the pcv port is in the rear, & points at the secondary bore on the passenger side. That screw wants about 2 1/2 turns, & the other on the secondary side wants 1/2 turn... go figure since my secondary side of the spacer has 1/2 of the divider removed & nicely radiused.(I mimicked the stock 2 barrel spacer on the secondary side only) It is still rich, i pinched my rubber fuel line to the carb with vise grips to help drain the carb for the power valve change, & about half way down the bowl as far as float level is where the vacuum came up & the idle became crisp. I think i am going to drop 2 sizes on the primary jets, & run it to see what the plugs do. I think i need to work with the timing curve a little. I am running about 24 at about 900 to 950 rpm idle, & total timing of 38 with about 5 or 6 degrees of that being in the vac. pot.
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By charliemccraney - 16 Years Ago
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Try one of these brackets for the coil:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FMS-M-12044-A2/
It works well for me with the Holley.

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By Ted - 16 Years Ago
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My RDJr is jetted up to 61’s in the primary side. And mine also came with 58’s originally. The upping of the jet sizes cost me a ~½ mile to the gallon in overall fuel economy but cruises much nicer and runs harder when I put my foot into the throttle. Spark plug readings are perfect at this point. The stock #65 power valve is in place. If I wanted to mess with it further, I would drill out the PCVR channels in the metering block out a little larger and try the 58 jets again. A #75 power valve will open sooner than a #65 power valve. Opening positions are 7½”Hg and 6½”Hg respectively. A #65 power valve will take more throttle opening or a reduced amount of engine vacuum to open it as opposed to what’s required for the #75 powervalve.
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By 63 Red Stake Bed - 16 Years Ago
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Well strangely enough, it wouldn't run w/o chugging like it had a full race cam with the 6.5 power valve.. It read 5 in of vac. on the gauge with that setup... I pinched the fuel line with vise grips to empty the fuel from the bowls before removing the primary, & when the fuel level was about a quarter inch below the sight glass it cleaned up & the vac. reading jumped up to 13. I need to play with the timing more, but I only pull about 10 in. of vac at idle. In theory the 6.5 power valve should be better...
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By charliemccraney - 16 Years Ago
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Your idle mixture was probably too rich. Set the fuel back to the proper level and tune the idle mixture screws for the best vacuum.
Make sure to change only one thing at a time.
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By 63 Red Stake Bed - 16 Years Ago
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Ok, put in fresh plugs, drove it & they are white as a ghost! In the spirit of only changing one thing at a time I jetted up to 64's.(need to get a read on the plugs) Runs much better. Having most of the idle issues due to the secondary idle & the initial amount that the secondary's are propped open by the set screw. I always made sure my secondary's were tight as a drum on my 4100's years ago... The 4 corner Idle calls for seeing a small amount of the transfer slot when viewing from below the plates... I have closed it 98%, will most likely close it the rest next tune session. Need to change back to the 65 power valve, since I still only pull 10 inches of vac. I may also open up the valve lash on the e-4 from .015 to .017 to help the vac, & idle quality & tunability. I
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By GREENBIRD56 - 16 Years Ago
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I think the Demon four corner idle feature is best used with one of the "open plenum" manifold arrangements - not a "Cross H" like we've got to work with. Like I believe you are thinking too - I shut down the whole seondary idle arrangement - did all my idle mixture tuning at the front. The adjustment they suggest for the front idle transfer slot (adjust blade closed till the remaining opening looks square when viewed from under the carb) worked OK on the primary. Then I adjusted the stop screw for the rear throttle plate to keep the engine running - so I didn't have to alter the primary position. Used the front bowl level to set the total mixture up and down - centered the rear in the glass. The Demon is way more responsive to this move (or at least it seems to be) than any of the Holley's I've tuned. The newest carb I got - the Road Demon Jr. - had a sticky needle and seat that drove me crazy - until I changed them both to steel. Everything would seem to be working OK - and without warning - garbage mixture.
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By 63 Red Stake Bed - 16 Years Ago
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Beginning to regret the road demon....
Have swapped to a new 6.5 powervalve, done several attempts to get the idle to work....
I get comments on how great it sounds, trouble is I know that it sounds that way because the carb is running incorrectly, & not that it has the 3/4 cam that it sounds like.
I have jetted up to 67's... I still have flat spots when accelerating gently. It reminds me of when I tried an autolite 4100 from a big block 390... Too much venturi to keep pulling the fuel down at low speeds.
Interestingly I drove it a while, popped the plugs, stark white. Made some minor idle adjustments & let it idle while doing so, (15 mins or so) then pulled the plugs. The 4 rear plugs remained white. The front were progressively geting black. I think the pcv at the rear is the biggest issue. I am going to drill & tap my 1" spacer for a nipple. I will drill two smaller holes into each of the primary bores within that hole just as they did on the factory manifold to reach both planes.
The thing is, this may cure the idle issue within some degree. I don't think the air bleeds on this carb are suited for the small 301. I know they rate it to 265 cubes, but this isn't working right.
I am curious if any of you guys running the road demon Jr. have experienced any of the venturiitis that i seem to get?
I am going to most likely end up shipping this thing back after positivlely identifiing that I can't fix it...
If I can get the Jr, & not have these issues I will probably be happy... This thing pulls hard once it finds the fuel...
If the Jr doesn't work, I am going to order a 465 holley I guess...
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By charliemccraney - 16 Years Ago
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Does the Jr not have a pcv port?
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By 55vickey - 16 Years Ago
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I'm running the 465 right now, luv it....except it doesn't have a PCV port.....I'll swap bases with another holley this winter. Gary
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By 63 Red Stake Bed - 16 Years Ago
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The Road Demon has a pcv port. It is on the back side though, & draws more from one side than another..
I used to have a similar problem with the small-block autolite when used with the rear vac tap on the very back of the 9425B. I ended up fabing up a downdraft tube in the rear for a while, but scrapped that idea after a few years and nearly every gasket started to leak! Maybe coincidence, but all that pressure from winding it up couldn't have helped.
I am going to call Demon & see what their tech guys say.. I am sure they will suggest going to the Jr, but who knows..
I really liked having the quick change vac secondary feature, & the center hung bowls never hang up no matter how hard or at what angle you hit a driveway & jostle things.. I can't say that for standard side hung holleys, & even the 4100 for that matter.
Looks like after a few jet changes on the bench late last night I have the Eddy ready to step in for another stint... Will be good to verify that I don't have a vac leak going on since I am paranoid of that at this time.
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By Ted - 16 Years Ago
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Do you have the Road Demon or Road Demon Jr. as the tuning requirements for each do differ. For the carbs with four idle circuits, I’ll make it a point to insure that all four throttle blades are equally open at idle and the four corresponding idle mixture screws are also set the same. But it still sounds like a vacuum leak on your end. Depending upon the carb spacer you’re using, carb gaskets are suspect either from a poor match to the spacer or just not sealing due to irregularities in the surface. The ‘B’ manifold is already sensitive to carb spacer issues if the carb flange has not been milled flat. Double check that the intake bolts are still tight also. Just running lean on the back cylinders makes the intake manifold gasket suspect or a vacuum leak associated with the rear manifold vacuum port.
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By 63 Red Stake Bed - 16 Years Ago
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Well, quick update.. I pulled the possessed demon. After talking to tech support they agreed that the application was correct & that there could be something wrong with the carb. Said to send it in. I mean while pulled the thing apart to get jets back to factory & noted a few key issues: 1: The passenger rear main jet had filings packed in behind it.(explains the idle screw settings on the secondary) 2: the secondary throttle bores don't even come close to closing when you back the idle stop screw all the way out...(I can understand the obvious intentional mismatch in the machining of the bores & blades to keep a small amount of air here, but common! I plan on trying it one more time before sending it back. I have cured the idle quality issues with valve lash using the eddlebrock to regain a baseline. Opened them up from .015 to .017. Man what a difference. Best idle vac directly before setting the lash was 11. Directly after with same idle speed reset is now 13.5. Idle speed now is @ 875-900 in Neutral, & about 750 in gear. Hope to drill & tap my allum. spacer for a front pcv port first before attempting the Demon again. If the Demon dosent work this time It looks like I will be pursuing a vacuum secondary adaptation of some sort for the eddlebrock, as this is my primary complaint with it.
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