So it continues......


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By Hoosier Hurricane - 16 Years Ago
I read another forum which has a thread on "Junior Stockers".  That's where I started my racing career so the thread is interesting to me.  But there is a guy who would like to see a nostalgia junior stocker movement get started, and he suggested some rules.

To keep everyone legal, he proposes a claims rule, whereby for $500 a racer would have to give up his engine.  He did state that early scrub FI and blown Fords could have their injectors and blowers remain with the owners.  That's nice.  Someone could buy a long block blown Ford engine with the correct heads for $500.  Makes me want to race with them.  Then he adds, there should be a cubic inch limit of 310.  Now I don't have to worry about racing with them.  He also eliminates all the '58 and later stockers of the day which had big engines and the start of the horsepower wars.  Then he suggested that FI and multiple carbs be allowed on engines up to 290 inches.  Sure, why not.  Wonder where he came up with the 310 and 290 numbers?

Seems to me what he really wants is an association of junior stock look-alikes, all '55-'57 scrubs.  I can see events with car counts of up to 3 cars at an event with his suggested rules.  What a joke!

By John Mummert - 16 Years Ago
John F, while I was reading an NHRA rule book a few years ago I found the listing for Altered or Modified roadster. Now I consider these to be run what ya brung classes. It stated "No canted valve heads on engines of less than 395 cu in. Where did that figure come from? The 396 scrub crowd that's afraid to race against a 351C?

I know that to a lot of drag racers Wally Parks is a hero. I have a little different view of 'ol Wally or at least his organization. I'm still looking for someone to donate a Wally to me. I promise to put it to good use.

The smell of burning rubber, ethanol and gun powder Smile

By 46yblock - 16 Years Ago
Hoosier Hurricane (12/4/2009)
I read another forum which has a thread on "Junior Stockers".  That's where I started my racing career so the thread is interesting to me.  But there is a guy who would like to see a nostalgia junior stocker movement get started, and he suggested some rules.

To keep everyone legal, he proposes a claims rule, whereby for $500 a racer would have to give up his engine.  He did state that early scrub FI and blown Fords could have their injectors and blowers remain with the owners.  That's nice.  Someone could buy a long block blown Ford engine with the correct heads for $500.  Makes me want to race with them.  Then he adds, there should be a cubic inch limit of 310.  Now I don't have to worry about racing with them.  He also eliminates all the '58 and later stockers of the day which had big engines and the start of the horsepower wars.  Then he suggested that FI and multiple carbs be allowed on engines up to 290 inches.  Sure, why not.  Wonder where he came up with the 310 and 290 numbers?

Seems to me what he really wants is an association of junior stock look-alikes, all '55-'57 scrubs.  I can see events with car counts of up to 3 cars at an event with his suggested rules.  What a joke!

John, I hope you stated your opinion on that "Other Forum" Hehe .

By mctim64 - 16 Years Ago
Why would you think things would change? Ermm
By charliemccraney - 16 Years Ago
Point it out to him and see what he says. Could be an innocent oversight??



Does the motor have to be stock dimensions? A 312 crank in an overbored 292 block for 310 inches wouldn't be a big deal.



What does it mean to give up your engine? Someone gives me $500 and I have to give them my engine?
By pegleg - 16 Years Ago
charlie,

         YES.

By Glen Henderson - 16 Years Ago
Hoosier, some of those guys on that "other site" smoke too much of their own "homegrown". I enjoy reading some of the build threads and tech stuff, but sometimes they can get way out in left field.
By PWH42 - 16 Years Ago
Charlie..........That's what it means.The same thing has been common practice for many years in some classes of oval dirt track racing.It's intent is to keep the well to do guys from running high dollar engines in classes where most guys have limited resources and still race to have fun,which really what it's all supposed to be about.
By Ted - 16 Years Ago

Here’s more on the buy back rules.  The oval track sanctioning bodies in my neck of the woods limits the number of engines that can be lost by a racer to three.  Depending upon the class it can be $350 or $500 to buy a winning or front running engine.  So what the racers do is build three so so (mediocre) engines for buy back purposes and as soon as those three engines have been lost to the buy back program, they then start racing their really good engines without fear of those being sold for scrap yard prices.  The buy back rule is easily circumvented just like so many other rules that are designed to keep racing costs down.  And the racers get pretty cagey in what they do to the engine balance on the engines they lose so that the person that gets the engine essentially gets an engine that will self destruct within a short period of time.

By PWH42 - 16 Years Ago
Ted,you're giving away a lot of closely held secrets!!!!!!!!!!!!