By 59flatbedford - 15 Years Ago
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so i really love the look of triple dueces. i know they are a pain to set up and all that but i just think they are really neat. so ive heard the 573 is the best 2x3 intake and is designed for the larger port heads. would a 553 work ok on a 59 f100 292. could i maybe port the intake a little to help the flow out some? what is the advantages of having the multiple carbs other than it looking cool? does it give more hp or torque. thanks guys.
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By mctim64 - 15 Years Ago
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We learned in a recent thread that 573 is for '57 (big ports) and 553 is for '55 (smaller ports) I think it's best to get what matches your heads. As for advantages I think most on here will agree that the single four on a Blue Thunder is just about the best way to go for the street but the 3 x 2s sure does look cool.
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By 2DRHRDTP57 - 15 Years Ago
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Difference between edelbrock 553 and 573 ..... About $150 when you want one. 
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By BIGREDTODD - 15 Years Ago
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For what it's worth, my '56 Bird with large-port heads (312 c.i) ran great with a 553 and a trio of 1 1/16" throat Holley 94's. Of course, I did swap to a 573 after Tim went through the heads. I would be curious to see an "apples to apples" dyno test, with the only variable being the intake. If budget is a concern, the 553 would work just fine on your F-100 and look just as cool...I've seen the 573's cange hands for north of $350 for a bare manifold (I paid $300 for mine) or $450+ for a manifold with buildable carbs. If you're patient you can probably pick up a 553 for around $150, and piece together a set of 94's pretty reasonably.
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By 59flatbedford - 15 Years Ago
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im not really building my truck for all out hp but more just moderate horspower and as much torque as i can find easily. so would the smaller port design hurt my torque much or not.
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By 55Birdman - 15 Years Ago
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The 573 has better airflow than the 553. You should be fine with it. the 553s seem to be more o with what you can get that fits the budget you have. You will be happy with either.
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By PWH42 - 15 Years Ago
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As mentioned,for your purposes,either one will be fine.In fact,with a small displacement street engine,larger intake ports and passages can cause the loss of some of the low end torque,so the 553 will serve you well.
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By MarkMontereyBay - 15 Years Ago
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I think there was an article in Yblock magazine years ago, by J. Christensen? that ran a flow test on several of the 3x2 manifolds and the 573 came out on top. I have a 57 312 auto. What kind of linkage did you use for your 56. Is there a hood clearance problem?
Thanks,
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By Ted - 15 Years Ago
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Not sure but I may have a 553 intake on an old engine in the shed. The numbers have been ground off so I’ll not know exactly which intake it is until I look at the ports. I’ll get it pulled off the engine today and confirm. If it is, then I’ll run it back to back on the dyno mule in the near future with a borrowed 573 intake that’s currently being used for dyno testing. If someone has the Offy 3X2 intake sitting loose, this would be a good time to test all three manifolds in back to back testing for a valid comparison of all three. Based on the current round of tests with the 573 intake, this is not a bad intake at all as it’s producing some pretty impressive numbers on an engine that has stock and unported heads.
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By mctim64 - 15 Years Ago
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Ted (1/19/2010) Not sure but I may have a 553 intake on an old engine in the shed. The numbers have been ground off so I’ll not know exactly which intake it is until I look at the ports. I’ll get it pulled off the engine today and confirm. If it is, then I’ll run it back to back on the dyno mule in the near future with a borrowed 573 intake that’s currently being used for dyno testing. If someone has the Offy 3X2 intake sitting loose, this would be a good time to test all three manifolds in back to back testing for a valid comparison of all three. Based on the current round of tests with the 573 intake, this is not a bad intake at all as it’s producing some pretty impressive numbers on an engine that has stock and unported heads.Thanks Ted! this is good to know since I will probably run the 573 intake that I have on my Dragster engine. The races out at Eagle Field are more about fun and what looks cool so it should add a nice touch. 
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By Cactus - 15 Years Ago
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Ted, I have an Offy manifold I can let you use for the test. If you can't find one closer I will send it to you.
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By MarkMontereyBay - 15 Years Ago
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I have an Offy 3x2 intake if you need it, but I am on the West Coast. If you need it, let me know and I will ship it to you.
Mark Hebard
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By lowrider - 15 Years Ago
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Ted, I also have a Offy 3x2 manifold I can ship to you from Michigan. Replaced it with a 553. Runs a lot better.
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By Ted - 15 Years Ago
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Wow guys. I’m impressed. All I’m needing is the Offy intake without carbs but carb studs would be nice. A trio of Stromberg 97’s are currently being used and the same carbs will be used on all the manifolds being tested. My druthers is to return the Offy intake to its owner at the Y-Block Shootout at Columbus but in the event none of you will be there or you need it back sooner than this, then I’ll just ship it back when testing is done. I look to do the first series of 3X2 tests within the next 2-3 weeks and that will be on the stock headed engine with a mild camshaft. Testing the intakes again with ported heads is also a possibility. The Edelbrock 3X2 intake that was on an engine in the shed is indeed a 553 although it’s not numbered on its top. I’ve already removed the carbs and linkages from it and it cleaned up very nicely. With the Offy intake throwed into the fray, I can come closer to duplicating the 1971 Popular Hot Rodding Y-Block dyno test and then see exactly how much more power each of two Edelbrock intakes are worth. The 573 intake on the stock headed and stock compression ratio 312 is already handily outperforming the 1971 Popular Hotrodding Y-Block dyno test so it will be interesting to see how the Offy intake performs. Jan, Mark, & Dan. Just let me know who is sending the manifold so I can be looking for it. Because the three of you so gratiously offered the loan of an intake, be sure all of you forward me your snail mail addresses so I can forward you copies of the dyno sheets with the various 3X2 intakes after testing is complete. My personal contact info is at www.eatonbalancing.com . But this brings up another item I need. I can use another couple pair of #48 jets for the Strombergs. Anyone have these laying loose? The carbs are currently jetted 48’s in the center and 45’s on the ends and since switching to the EMC headers, the fuel mixture at full throttle is running on the lean side. Engine was running pig rich with #50 jets in all carbs with the now removed Red’s headers.
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By Cactus - 15 Years Ago
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Ted, I will ship you mine tomorrow, and you should get it in a few days. I don't need it any time soon, so you are welcome to keep it as long as you need it.
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By Ted - 15 Years Ago
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Jan. Thanks for the loan of the manifold. I’ll be on the lookout of it.
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By Bob's 55 - 15 Years Ago
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Ted, went out and checked my Stromberg stuff. Unfortunately the only 48 jets I have are in my 97's on the car... I do have some 'parts carbs here so I will check what jets they have (that is if I can get them out, the carbs are well, shall we say, used and abused.
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By Bob's 55 - 15 Years Ago
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Ted, went out and checked my Stromberg stuff. Unfortunately the only 48 jets I have are in my 97's on the car... I do have some 'parts carbs here so I will check what jets they have (that is if I can get them out, the carbs are well, shall we say, used and abused.
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By pintoplumber - 15 Years Ago
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Jan, if you want, I could bring the offy back from Columbus for you.
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By Cactus - 15 Years Ago
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Dennis, that would be great. I can meet you anywhere you like. I really appreciate it as I did not want Ted to have to pay for the shipping back to me. Y-block guys are the greatest and I would really like to meet you and maybe have a meal together.
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By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
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Ted Eaton .....But this brings up another item I need. I can use another couple pair of #48 jets for the Strombergs. Anyone have these laying loose? The carbs are currently jetted 48’s in the center and 45’s on the ends and since switching to the EMC headers, the fuel mixture at full throttle is running on the lean side. Engine was running pig rich with #50 jets in all carbs with the now removed Red’s headers.
Ted, i can send you 6 #48 jets on monday, they are used but should do the job, let me know if you still can use them, Thank you, regards bill.
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By Ted - 15 Years Ago
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Bill. Just send four of the #48’s. I already have two. Special thanks to everyone that’s sending parts for testing. I’ve had someone else call and they have the Weiand 3X2 intake and it’s being shipped also. What started out as simply testing a 573 intake with Strombergs on the mule motor is going to turn into a full fledged 3X2 test. Anyone got a Fenton 3X2 sitting on the shelf? This is a good opportunity to test as many of the 3X2 intakes as possible and get those results public.
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By charliemccraney - 15 Years Ago
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You should take a picture of all of them together. It might be the first time that so many different manifolds have been in one place.
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By mctim64 - 15 Years Ago
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This sounds to me like the makings of a good article for Y-Block magazine, LFM and/or others. Can't wait to see how this one turns out.
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By BIGREDTODD - 15 Years Ago
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Ted (1/22/2010)
Anyone got a Fenton 3X2 sitting on the shelf? This is a good opportunity to test as many of the 3X2 intakes as possible and get those results public. Hey Ted, I believe Dick York may have a Fenton on the shelf, and last time I talked to him he had a large port Weiand...one thing worthy of note, I am almost certain that Offy, Weiand, and Fenton offered the large/small port versions of their manifolds just like the 553/573...may be wrong but I recall seeing both versions of a Fenton.
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By pintoplumber - 15 Years Ago
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Cactus (1/21/2010) Dennis, that would be great. I can meet you anywhere you like. I really appreciate it as I did not want Ted to have to pay for the shipping back to me. Y-block guys are the greatest and I would really like to meet you and maybe have a meal together.
It's a deal, Jan.
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By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
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charliemccraney (1/22/2010) You should take a picture of all of them together. It might be the first time that so many different manifolds have been in one place.Charlie and others suggesting wanting to see all the manifolds together, try this search in google ;timmys y block page and go to intakes!, tim hasnt added any for long while but has great picture collection and small description of the intakes, some of jerry C.s early ones are there also. regards bill.
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By mctim64 - 15 Years Ago
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He's right! That is a good site, I've been there many times. Tims seem to like Y-Blocks.  http://m571.com/yblock/intake.htm (this is the link)
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By charliemccraney - 15 Years Ago
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I know of that site. What I mean is to have all of them in one picture.
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By Y block Billy - 15 Years Ago
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Ted, I have an Edmunds 3 x 2 I will send you also for the testing, its on my 55 vicky w/original 272 at the moment but I plan on bringing that car in this weekend as it is getting the new 301 Y. It appears to be small port compared to other manifolds I have but looks to have lots of meat for porting. It is in the pictures on Timmys page, I don't know if Edmunds made large and small port or not.
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By Ted - 15 Years Ago
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Y block Billy (1/23/2010) Ted, I have an Edmunds 3 x 2 I will send you also for the testing.......Billy. Thanks for the loan and just let me know when it’s on its way. The plan is to try to test all the manifolds in a single day. After this round of testing is done, I’ll likely not want to see another 3X2 intake for awhile. And I will make it a point to get a picture of all the intakes together. Maybe having them all standing up while they are duking it out?
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By Y block Billy - 15 Years Ago
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Ted, I sent you an email, is the shipping address the same as in your advertisements in the Y block Magazine? I brought the car in yesterday, will be removing the manifold this morning and shipping first thing Monday morning.
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By JJ - 15 Years Ago
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Ted,
The Weiand 3X2 intake is on it's way to you. Thanks for all you are doing and the wealth of information you provide. Your efforts are greatly appreciated, especially by those of us who are not as gifted as you are.
Jim
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By Ted - 15 Years Ago
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Billy. My shipping address is the same as what you see in the YBM. You can find my other contact info at www.eatonbalancing.com . Will you need the intake back as soon as testing is complete or is bringing it back to Columbus during the Y-Block Shootout okay? Thanks again. Jim. Thanks for loan of the intake. I’ll be on the lookout for it.
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By Y block Billy - 15 Years Ago
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No Ted, I will not need it back soon, Columbus is fine. I have it all boxed and just printed up a label, headed to the post office shortly to put it in the mail.
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By 55F1Y - 15 Years Ago
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I am relatively new to this forum and have been following this topic with interest because I plan to install a 3x2 setup on a relatively stock 292 in my '55 F-100. I don't want to complicate things.But what would really be cool, once the best manifold is found. Run a test on a set of each of the following carbs. 1. original 97 2. Speedway motor's, "super 97" 3. Barry Grant's Demon 98. Just a thought.
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By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
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55F1Y (1/26/2010)
I am relatively new to this forum and have been following this topic with interest because I plan to install a 3x2 setup on a relatively stock 292 in my '55 F-100. I don't want to complicate things.But what would really be cool, once the best manifold is found. Run a test on a set of each of the following carbs. 1. original 97 2. Speedway motor's, "super 97" 3. Barry Grant's Demon 98. Just a thought. Would be interesting comparison,! but ultimatly the high cost of these new ones will rule them out for most! x 3.
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By oldcarmark - 15 Years Ago
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Just listed on Ebay.553 manifold COMPLETE with carbs,linkage,aircleaners.Item #320480313981.Buy-Now $400.00.Looks pretty good.
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By oldcarmark - 15 Years Ago
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The aforementioned setup SOLD quick.Did someone here buy it?
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By Ted - 15 Years Ago
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55F1Y (1/26/2010)
I don't want to complicate things.But what would really be cool, once the best manifold is found. Run a test on a set of each of the following carbs. 1. original 97 2. Speedway motor's, "super 97" 3. Barry Grant's Demon 98. For testing the various 3X2 intake manifolds, a single set of good carbs will tell the story as far as determining the attributes of each. The Stromberg 97’s I’ve been using fits the bill for this. I also have a matched set of Holley 2100’s (94’s) with linkages but will not pursue using these carbs during the 3X2 testing.A carburetor test would be nice but like Bill says, a test of this nature would be expensive unless there were people out there with the various carb combinations that would be willing to loan them for testing. A carburetor test should be performed on a single manifold and ideally on the best overall manifold so that differences in carb performances can be more accurately evaluated. Setting up all the required carb linkages would be a task in itself.
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By Y block Billy - 15 Years Ago
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Ted, I ran my carbs together without progressive linkage, Maybe you do do a test of this nature, with progressive linkage and without.
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By MarkMontereyBay - 15 Years Ago
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OldCarMark,
Yep....I bagged that setup last night. Thanks for the heads up. Still looking for a 573 though.
Mark Hebard
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By oldcarmark - 15 Years Ago
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Good for you!It looked pretty good on the listing and I thought the price was very fair for a complete setup.When you get it let us know if it is as good as it looked!
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By 55F1Y - 15 Years Ago
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Ted, This is exactly what I was referring to. I understand how time consuming this would be. You will have a good deal of time invested in just the manifold test. Still it would be interesting to see how the various carbs stacked up against each other on a common manifold known to be good. May be another time. "Anything worth having is worth working for"
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