Y Block Rocker Arm Assembly


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By grovedawg - 15 Years Ago
292 Ford Y Block. C1TE heads. How do you pull apart the rocker arm assembly? I'm trying to remove the support brackets and I don't want to destroy anything. Rather than use my trusty hammer... or cutting torch for that matter, I'd like to pull the thing apart. Any suggestions?
By charliemccraney - 15 Years Ago
Rubber hammer or a block of wood. They're on there pretty tight sometimes.
By grovedawg - 15 Years Ago
I was afraid it was that simple. I just didn't want to destroy anything. Thanks so much duder!!!
By mctim64 - 15 Years Ago
Clamp the stands in a vice to relieve the pressure, that helps.

It shows in this video.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7ZjObWyRJU

By grovedawg - 15 Years Ago
Great. My dog just ralphed on the carpet before I finished writting that last post Nice. Now I won't be able to get back to my engine 'til I clean that crap up... Honey? Wink
By mctim64 - 15 Years Ago
I love dogs!  Wink
By grovedawg - 15 Years Ago
GREAT VIDEO! Thanks for your help. One other question. I watched the next video that Tim McMaster published on youtube about pressurizing the rocker arm assembly.



How?



Here's the video where Tim shows the results.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTdmD0sQbx4&feature=related
By grovedawg - 15 Years Ago
I just realized YOU'RE Tim McMaster. Thanks so much for the videos and the response. I feel like I'm not worthy to ask you questions. I rebuilding my first Y and am scared and excited all at the same time.
By mctim64 - 15 Years Ago
grovedawg (1/18/2010)


How?

It shows in the video.  The old way to do it was just to pinch the overflow tubes all I've done is tap one tower for a 5/16" x 1/2" bolt and shoulder it to locate the rocker shaft.  It's also a good idea to slot the oil holes on the shaft to better oil each rocker.  There has been some concern about oiling the timing chain when the overflow tube to the front has been deleted in this case I drill a small hole in the front of the block to feed a little oil to the chain.  There are some on this site that still run the over flow tube with no problems and of course that is the way Ford intended it but with these few modifications I still like to pressurize the ones I build.

This slot is cut into the tower that will be threaded for the locating bolt so air will be bled out of the shaft.

By grovedawg - 15 Years Ago
Do I just yank out the oil line from the last stand? I know in video you say to replace them. I just want to make sure if they're deformed I'm OK.
By mctim64 - 15 Years Ago
Just twist them back and forth while pulling, they'll come out.  If you screw them up and still want to use them just PM me and I'll send you a couple, I have got a box full. Tongue
By Y block Billy - 15 Years Ago
Grovedawg,

I use one of those lead hammers with the plastic screw on faces that are green and red. as far as pressurizing the rockers, there is a passage in the head between the head and block that makes a couple 90* turns. when the rockers are pressurized it will slow the oil flow through this area and being the hottest part of the path of oil flow the oil could start to bake the oil there and block this passage. this area was the culpret of much of the engines loosing oil flow to the rockers. So I am not the biggest fan of slowing the oil flow through this area. I understand oil may be better these days and withstand more heat, but the slower it goes through there the hotter it can get. I am more to letting the oil flow through there fast and freely to keep it clean and not have the propensity to heat up and plug up like cholesterol plugging up an artery.

6 in one half a dozen in the other, just more food for thought.

By Y block Billy - 15 Years Ago
I forgot to mention removing the tube from the end stand I have had to heat the stand up with a propane torch a few times if they are stuck so you don't twist the tube off. The aluminum and steel create a reaction that builds up a white corrosion between them if the motor has been sitting dry for some time.
By grovedawg - 15 Years Ago
I was able to twist one of fine, with a little patience and some WD40. The second one was more stubborn. It deformed a little, and it finally came out. I'll probably have to replace the one, so I might as well get a new set.



I'm still a little scetchy on the pressurization process. Pros and Cons. But, I'm going to finish pulling the engine apart tonight/tomorrow, and I'm sure once I visually concieve the oiling process it will come together. Thanks for you're help guys.
By Y block Billy - 15 Years Ago
Grovedawg,

I am not saying pressurization is not good, it is good because it forces the parts to float on a film of oil preventing wear. I am just looking at things from all angles and think too much restriction may lead to what I mentioned in previous reply.

By Ted - 15 Years Ago

This is sort of like talking about oil brands.  You’ll find arguments for and against pressurizing the shafts.  Here’s a previous thread on the subject.  Be sure to read all pages and then come to your own conclusions.

Pressurized rocker shafts

By Y block Billy - 15 Years Ago
Read Ted,

its like the old argument about viscosities also, some say thicker is better some say thinner, the thicker because it gives a better cushion and the thinner because it flows through quicker and stays cooler. I tend to be on the thicker side since my engines sit for months during winter and when I travel jobs. In my opinion the thicker will hang in the bearings longer and not drip out so that initial start after sitting a couple months has a bit of cushion. I think thinner the bearings drip dry and it is that initial start where 90% of wear comes from after sitting.