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By MarkMontereyBay - 15 Years Ago
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Any high rollers ready take after this one? Any predictions on high the price will go?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Vintage-Hilborn-Y-Block-Ford-Fuel-Injection_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2eaaecad3dQQitemZ200436133181QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
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By MoonShadow - 15 Years Ago
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After a $1200 set of Fenton exhaust anything is possible! Chuck in NH
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By mctim64 - 15 Years Ago
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I tell ya guys, I'd love to have a set of those for my FED project but I'm afraid of how much they will sell for in the end and how much it would cost to get them running correctly. Also don't you need a pump and a few other parts to make them run? I don't know, you spend a bunch of money to get something like that and it ends up sitting on a shelf.  I think I'll just go with carburettors. Sure looks cool though. 
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By charliemccraney - 15 Years Ago
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Send them to Hilborn and have them converted for efi.
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By MarkMontereyBay - 15 Years Ago
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I remember a set for sale back on the old Yblock forum many years ago. I think the guy ended up paying a shocking $4k plus for the set that did not include the injection pump. Also, the Hilborn is a racing setup and I don't think it would be streetable as it is designed for mostly full throttle use. Converting it to EFI multiport would be one way to go but even then, with the throttle plates just above the head intake ports, the low end would be awful. For the EFI MAF Multiport possibilty, removing the throttle plates and fabricating long individual intake runners to a common plenum and throttle body was an idea is was toying with years ago. But....obviously the cost of that would be ridiculous and really, to me, trashing of a very cool and rare vintage performance system for Y blocks. Anyone know if Webers were ever used on American Y blocks?
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By bloodyknucklehill - 15 Years Ago
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That's funny.. I just signed on to post the very same thing.. definately in the watch list.. already at $1026 and some change as i write this..
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By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
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They are getting scarcer and hence dearer, like cheap petrol! buy it now or miss out or forever cry about it, regardless of what it is. I brought this one #5 from ebay with fuel pump angle drive, mallory dist, valley cover, lines etc, it is sweet and i had to make sacrifices to own it but cheap by todays prices, point is, all this rare stuff doesnt get cheaper, happy hunting. 
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By bloodyknucklehill - 15 Years Ago
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nice score then.. at the current price though sacrifices, to me, would mean selling my daily driver and walking seven miles to work.. mainly just watching it as a "pipe dream" as they say.. One would hope, though, with the recent resurgence in the popularity of our beloved engines more manufacturers will start reproducing more parts for them.. I'm still kinda tickeled at the rumors of the "new" 3X2 manifold 
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By LordMrFord - 15 Years Ago
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Is anybody using Hilborn setup on street?
I assume, heat bends throttle linkage too much for proper street usage.
That happened to local Hotrodder, who converted mechanical injection to EFI and I heard same rumours from finnish old school rally veterans who used always flexible hose between Webers and intake manifold.
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By bloodyknucklehill - 15 Years Ago
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price seems to have stalled a bit.. $1052 and change.. I wonder what the guys reserve is cause it still hasn't met it..
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By mctim64 - 15 Years Ago
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Well I know it is above $1555 because I'm the high bid @$1052. 
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By Ted - 15 Years Ago
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MarkMontereyBay (2/5/2010)
..... Anyone know if Webers were ever used on American Y blocks?I haven’t seen a cast production intake for the Y but that necessarily doesn’t mean one wasn’t made in small numbers somewhere. Here’s the only Weber manifold I’m aware of for the Y.
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By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
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Ted, I think that weber intake is made by PIERCE MANIFOLDS, INC, certainly looks good! I've always thought european carbs never look good on fords? We all owe you a big thanks for your R &D work on our engines amongst your normal work. regards bill.
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By MarkMontereyBay - 15 Years Ago
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Wow...that is a pretty exotic piece. I had imagined the carbs being aligned with the stacked ports instead of rotated. Makes for a twisty ride for the fuel/air mix into the head.
Mark Hebard
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By Y block Billy - 15 Years Ago
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Tim, I thought in your previous post you said you were sticking with carbs? Now high bidder? sly dog you. Best of luck on bidding, I have too many projects to complete now that I have my shop done, so my money is definately allocated elsewhere.
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By Ted - 15 Years Ago
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aussiebill (2/9/2010)
Ted, I think that weber intake is made by PIERCE MANIFOLDS, INC, certainly looks good! I've always thought european carbs never look good on fords?Bill. The Y-Block Weber intake that’s pictured is actually by Hogans Manifolds. I haven’t seen the Pierce Manifold offering for the Y but there’s likely some examples out there somewhere.
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By MarkMontereyBay - 15 Years Ago
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The Hilborn injection system is back on the Ebay "store" with an asking price of $4000.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Vintage-Hilborn-Y-Block-Ford-Fuel-Injection_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2c532baf2eQQitemZ190373932846QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
Mark
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By mctim64 - 15 Years Ago
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Too much for me!
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By MoonShadow - 15 Years Ago
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The last one that sold for $4000 had everything with it! Pump, magnito, etc. All you needed to install it on your car. This one isn't worth near that. Chuck in NH
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By Doug T - 15 Years Ago
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I wonder how many models Hilborn made? It looks like AussieBill's Hilborn setup has the barrel valve on the valley Cover and the one for sale on E bay has it on a bracket from the left side module. The original Hilborn system was not forgiving for the street. It had no real method for controlling the A/F mixture at part throttle. The Barrel valve made an attempt at controlling fuel flow as a function of throttle position which corrolates somewhat to air flow. Also the fuel pump was centrifugal so that as the engine speed increased the pressure increased even faster (at the Square of speed) thus increasing flow through the nozzles. There was also an oriface called a 'pill" that controlled recycled fuel rate. But at part throttle and say 3000 RPM there was no way the system could derive the right fuel flow to the nozzles and also the reduced flow rates meant reduced pressure to the nozzles so they would not atomize the fuel at all well. The Battle Bird road race car had A hilborn system but it must have been a handful on a road course. Here is a link to see it http://www.tbirdsbygil.com/Battle%20Bird.htm
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By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
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Doug T (2/21/2010)
I wonder how many models Hilborn made? It looks like AussieBill's Hilborn setup has the barrel valve on the valley Cover and the one for sale on E bay has it on a bracket from the left side module.Doug, you are correct, my hilborn has the genuine valley cover and the hose block and barrel valve screw to it, it was pretty complete and went looking for the paperwork when i got it, it was in 2002 and paid, wait for it! $3975.00 USD plus shipping to here, and thats a lot of $AU!. It is #5 and i believe there were 150-200 sets made,? who knows, i then sold off my other less complete set to help ease the pain. but these things only keep getting dearer. The guy Aluminum man allways has rare stuff including other y block intakes but high to start. I got this set off an interesting individual, BIG BOB HUTA from Lomita in CA. Bob had the rarest of speed equipment and a longshoremans manner but was ok with me, sadly passing round xmas, i believe his son will carry on, but bob had the knowledge. best regards bill.
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By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
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Guys, that hilborn set up on ebay sold for $4000.00 USD. Anyone we know???? Thought you,d like to know. regards bill.
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By mctim64 - 15 Years Ago
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aussiebill (2/24/2010)
Guys, that hilborn set up on ebay sold for $4000.00 USD. Anyone we know???? Thought you,d like to know. regards bill.Wasn't I. Although I sure was thinking about it.
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By MarkMontereyBay - 15 Years Ago
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Sure as hell wasn't me. If I remember, the similar incomplete unit that sold way back (10 years ago?) went well North of $4000. At that time the discussion was about the foolishness of the purchase and the estimated number of Hilborn units produced to be about 175 to 200. So, in some context, the purchase price paid this week falls in line. If I had a much larger wallet I would have considered it. The purchase price does point to a very impressive interest in Y blocks. Vic Jr. take notice, there is still a large inventory of Y block motors languishing in retirement. The 55-57 Tbird market will assure a constant demand. Many of the early Birds are being handed over to a younger generation as the original restorers are fade away. Many of the newer owners will be looking at what to do with them.
Mark Hebard
Mark Hebard
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By bird55 - 15 Years Ago
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Here's some pics of the complete Hilborn set my buddy, Ralph Alix owned for years for your viewing pleasure. I believe Tom Kitchens bought it from him at the shoot out last year, or the one before?
As a gentleman… I didn't ask what the sale price was.
I lusted over it for years and years as he was willing to sell it to me.
IMHO nothing would have looked cooler on my street TBird, and nothing would harder to take care of and keep going for the street especially. I needed it like another hole in the head. But I still wanted it! A great piece of vintage speed hardware. Tom's probably putting it to good use I bet. Oh ya, check out the spooky fuel shut off. hehe
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By Hoosier Hurricane - 15 Years Ago
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Alan: What's so spooky about the fuel shutoff? It looks just like the one on my toilet supply line. It's probably 50 years old, just like the Hilborn.
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By mctim64 - 15 Years Ago
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I still think that set-up would look way cool on my FED while kickin' scrubs behind. 
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By bird55 - 15 Years Ago
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John, I hope your pulling my leg? Please tell me that wouldn't pass tech today. hard to tell about sarcasm on here.
But yeah, the toilet shut off is exactly it. As a matter of fact it looks like something I would have tried to get by with.
I keep learning, the hard way.
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