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By Outlaw56 - 15 Years Ago
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I just came across a 1959 Ford F-600 (two ton) dullies, single barrel carb. I believe it has the original motor. Air cleaner says 186 HP. A friend knew I was looking for a rebuildable 292 and put me on to this truck. Its free if I take the whole thing. The truck is in great shape, minor rust and very good sheetmetal. I expected it to have the "ram horn" exhaust being on a two ton, but it has the crossovers. We jumped it and it turned over but I did not want to try again. My question is, assuming this is the original engine, is it a good one to rebuild for a 56 F-100 project truck? The truck is in such good shape, I hate to think of not keeping it. I would like some opinions on what engine this might be if in fact it was the original motor. Thanks!
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By HT32BSX115 - 15 Years Ago
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Howdy,
That could be the "heavy duty" engine with the forged crank. It certainly would be a good rebuild prospect.
It probably also has a 2 speed axle.
That's a cool truck.
If you have room, you should get it. I suppose you could part it out.... 
Cheers,
Rick
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By Y block Billy - 15 Years Ago
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I don't think the C1TE with the steel crank came out until 61. (Note C = decade 60's 1= year of decade) I have an F500 and it came with the 272.
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By Outlaw56 - 15 Years Ago
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It does have the two speed axel. I have no idea how to shift these. I have heard they take a special touch. I also have to take some pictures of the rims and see if they are the old "widow makers" or the standard rims. I hear the widow makers wheels are obsolete and hard to get tires for.
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By Flying Jester - 15 Years Ago
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If I were you, I'd just make the F-600 the new family truck!...oh wait, I've already done that with a mid 60s F-600...
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By mr4speedford - 15 Years Ago
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Although anything is possible after all these years, it should have 471's or 113's for heads. Ram's horns were used on cab overs and the heavy duty 302's and up. A 1959 block is decent piece. I'd say grab it!
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By crenwelge - 15 Years Ago
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Are you sure its a Y-block. Ford never rated a Y at 186 HP. Sounds more like a 332 with a 4 barrel. As for a 2 speed, they are really not that complicated. If you you are not hauling a load, simply go through the gears until you are at highway speed. Pull the button up and let up on the gas until it shifts, then give it gas again. To down shift, let off the gas momentarily, push the button down and give it gas again and it will be in low axle again. As for the wheels, if they are the "widow makers" they would be the Firestone RH-5 type. They are 20" and can accommodate 7.50x20 or 8.25x20 tires which are still readily available. However, they are dangerous to change and I would not recommend even airing them up. This is a drawing of how they split in the middle.
http://picasaweb.google.com/crenwelgeoil/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCP_E6KG8-e3vEQ&pli=1#5437241097101419074
If the front wheel has a lock ring on the outside, it is a relative safe type.
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By Outlaw56 - 15 Years Ago
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Can anyone tell me how to identify a Ford 332 from a Y'block just by quick observation? Aslo, I can not open the thread posted by Kenneth on the drawing of the ford split rim. Is there a way to post it so I can just click on it and review it? Thanks
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By charliemccraney - 15 Years Ago
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Look at the thermostat housing. The Y housing is mounted to a vertical flange. The Lincoln Y housing is mounted to a horizontal flange.
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By Flying Jester - 15 Years Ago
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I found many of the F-600 have the...I think it's called the GAA engine. It's originally made for airplanes. I think it was also adapted for marine use. It's about the size of a big block, but the engine will have only silver paint on it and has very strange valve covers, each is two part, with a little bridge across the center.
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By crenwelge - 15 Years Ago
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We had one of them in a gasoline delivery truck in the mid 50's. It was not the Lincoln Y block. It's only automotive use was in around 2 ton trucks. It was similar to a 302 which was also a truck engine and totally different than the later 302. I really can't remember what it looked like except that it had a Holley 4 barrel that would catch fire ever so often on a cold morning which is not so good around a gasoline bulk plant.
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By Ted - 15 Years Ago
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Outlaw56 (2/11/2010)
I just came across a 1959 Ford F-600 (two ton) dullies, single barrel carb. Single barrel carb?
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By Park Olson - 15 Years Ago
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I don't know what you found,,,but Ford didn't have a SINGLE barrel carb on any V8 after 1933. A '59 600 would have had a 292 w/ a Ford flat top carb,,2 barrel,,,, The GAA engine was a WWII tank engine ! google FORD GAA engine
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By crenwelge - 15 Years Ago
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The more I think about it, the more I think the 332 we had was in a F800. The truck engines had about 7.5 compression and the highest a 292 was ever rated in a truck was about 160 HP and that was with a 4 barrel. However I think all we are looking at is an air cleaner that could have come of almost anything.
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By Outlaw56 - 15 Years Ago
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Single barrell carb, what was I thinking? You got me on that one!
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By awhtx - 15 Years Ago
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I have an original 1958 Ford Truck sales brochure and it shows that a 186HP 292 was available in F100-F700 trucks. It doesn't specify 1 or 2 barrel carb.
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By crenwelge - 15 Years Ago
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If thats what it says, I guess that's what it is. The service manual lists a 292 2 barrel at 158 HP and with 4 barrel at 160. However that may be net HP and the HP advertised in the sales brochure as well as on the air cleaner is gross advertised HP. That might take take mystery out of the whole thing.
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