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By Apache - 15 Years Ago
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Okay guys, it's been a while, but i've been trying for two days just to get the ignition wiring set-up. I thought I had it set and went to turn her over, to no avail. I've looked through wiring diagrams and it looks all right, but apparently it's not. Does anyone have pics of there wiring (by the starter solenoid)? Remember, i've converted it to the 12v system. Here's the list of everything, I will go into more detail if need be:
-Cable from 12V BAT to the BAT side of the solenoid.
-Cable from Starter to starter side of the solenoid.
-Cable from + side of coil to Ign.(I) side of solenoid.
Here's the ONLY part(s) that I think MAY be wrong????
-Cable from BAT side of solenoid to the BAT side of Ignition switch.
-Cable from Coil side of Ignition switch, to + side of Coil.
-Cable from the Switch(S) side of the solenoid to neutral safety switch, from neutral safety switch to the Switch(S) side of the Ignition Switch.
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By PWH42 - 15 Years Ago
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I'm not positive,but I think the 57 is like a 56 and will only start in neutral,not Park.
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By Apache - 15 Years Ago
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It's in neutral, And to be sure I even bypassed the neutral safety switch (at one point). Still didn't work.
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By 56 big window - 15 Years Ago
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any chance you just have a bad solenoid? check the start wire with a test light during crank to see if it has power. I know this sounds crazy , but is your battery dead .
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By MarkMontereyBay - 15 Years Ago
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Do you have power to the rest of the vehicle? Headlights/Tsignals/fan? If it doesn't, make sure your battery isn't fully dead. If you have power to the rest of the car, put a test light on the ignition start wire and turn the key to start and check to see if the test glows. If not check your battery terminals to be sure they clean down to fresh metal. The same with the inside of the cable ends...clean..and if you are using the aftermarket clamp on cable ends take 'em apart and wire brush any corrosion out of them and the cable wires. Do the same for the neg battery cable to ground (block) connections. If you have power make damn sure the vehicle is actually in neutral. If it somehow starts and it is in a gear it will get dangerous. Next, with the ignition key off, jump the S terminal on the solenoid to the positive battery cable connected to the solenoid and see if it cranks. If it does the problem is in the ignition switch/wiring etc. If not, possible bad starter or solenoid. Hope some of these tips get you on your way.
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By Apache - 15 Years Ago
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Solenoid's perfect, brand new one actually. What kills me is. I disconnected the ignition switch so i oculd check the wiring in the back, checked connections, got nothing...But when i let it go, it leaned against the fuse(hot) on the headlight switch, and tried to crank.....
For those who don't know, i'm just trying to get the wiring down so i can break-the came in. I have the headlights and all the disconnected and whatnot.
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By MarkMontereyBay - 15 Years Ago
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That points to a mis wired or bad ignition switch if I am reading you correctly. That's sort of what we did to "hot wire" cars we didn't have keys to when I was a juvenile delinquent.
Mark
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By Apache - 15 Years Ago
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yeah, i just wish i knew where....thats why i listed what i have/what i think its supposed to be. wanna see if i'm wiring it right...i think i am
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By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
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Apache, i would put test lite on back of ign switch and turn key to start and check the terminal becomes live, note the wire color then attach test lite to small wire that goes to solenoid small terminal, hopefully same color and retest for start current as before, if live, try on other small terminal, IF not just bypass everything and run wire from ign switch start terminal round to solenoid and try. Also just try one large jumper lead across solenoid terminals to see if circuit is complete.i.e the starter should spin. There cant be much wrong. Good luck.
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By Ted - 15 Years Ago
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Is the solenoid adequately grounded? You might also try running a separate wire on the outside of the vehicle from the ignition switch to the solenoid to rule out a bad wire.
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By Apache - 15 Years Ago
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The only thing that makes me think it's not a wire going back to the ignition side of the solenoid is because when hot power is brought to the ign. switch it tries to fire up (without me turning the key)
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By MarkMontereyBay - 15 Years Ago
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Apache,
Here is a wiring diagram for the 57 Ford. You can use it to trace the wiring and trouble shoot each circuit. Use the + sign cursor to blow up the diagram to make it easier to read. Also, since you have effectively caused the starter to crank by inadvertently powering up one of the wires on the ignition switch, you have ruled out the solenoid, cables and starter. They will function if given power. Also, the power circuit (yellow wire) for the ignition circuit flows through the headlight switch. You mentioned you have all the other wiring disconnected. If the headlight switch is unplugged try plugging it back in. The red/green run circuit goes to the resistor and then to the coil so make sure you have that connected as well. Hope this helps. You are close.
http://www.tocmp.com/tOCMP/wiring/5765wiring%20diagrams/Ford/MWire5765-195.jpg
Mark Hebard
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By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
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Ted (3/12/2010)
Is the solenoid adequately grounded? You might also try running a separate wire on the outside of the vehicle from the ignition switch to the solenoid to rule out a bad wire.Ted, yes thats what i also suggested, a wire seperate from the rest to rule out incorrect connection, if only we were there to help. Does anyone live nearby?
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By Apache - 15 Years Ago
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FINALLY GOT IT!!! Ugh, after going through everything it's the one thing I was sure was fine. After troubleshooting and troubleshooting, it was that 2-3 foot wire that went from the coil to the solenoid. Well, I should be able to break in the cam now..Fingers crossed....
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