Found mystery part


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By San Diego Ron - 15 Years Ago
Trying to get this engine installed and found this part under car...has to go somewhere

Sooooo happy I went to new type Flex Plate

 Last of four bolts tight

Bolted to Trans, motor mounts, duel exhaust, flex-plate...not long now just the starter, linkage, wires, fluids, and Mystery Part

By Daniel Jessup - 15 Years Ago
Ron, the mystery part is indeed a part of the accelerator linkage. If you flip the part clockwise on its side about 90 degrees (as pictured), you will see that the two holes mount to your block just aft of the valley pan. The small tab with the small hole is there to hold the other end of a return spring.

Could be wrong, but I believe that is your mystery part...Wink

By oldcarmark - 15 Years Ago
Daniel! You are absolutely 100% correct.These guys try to fool YOU by posting the pic upside down but they can't!
By San Diego Ron - 15 Years Ago
That was no trick...I had no idea where the part came from and was getting nervous thinking it could have fallen out of bell housing that is now buttoned up. Thanks for the help now I can get back out there....saved again by you guys.
By mctim64 - 15 Years Ago
You have to be tricky to be a Y-block guy, but one can't trick another. Wink
By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
mctim64 (5/14/2010)
You have to be tricky to be a Y-block guy, but one can't trick another. Wink

Tim, that part is what many dont see when pulling engine and try and remove accererator arm and firewall with engine!Tongue

By San Diego Ron - 15 Years Ago
I'm still stuck...see where it goes but not sure which two of the three holes it mounts to and in what direction and what spring and where does other end connect? I did come up with spring that is about 3" long but this mystery part is also missing the two mounting bolts...anyone see where I put them? Everything else is accounted for...well, pretty much. I looked on my "54 Ford but it is different and has spring going to tab on base of carburetor. Anyone have picture or diagram of this setup?
By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
San Diego Ron (5/14/2010)
I'm still stuck...see where it goes but not sure which two of the three holes it mounts to and in what direction and what spring and where does other end connect? I did come up with spring that is about 3" long but this mystery part is also missing the two mounting bolts...anyone see where I put them? Everything else is accounted for...well, pretty much. I looked on my "54 Ford but it is different and has spring going to tab on base of carburetor. Anyone have picture or diagram of this setup?

Ron, slide the bush part onto the accelerator rod on the firewall, it is the support of the end of the linkage, then the 2 holes on back of block near distributor base should be evident. The small hole is for spring.

By rick55 - 15 Years Ago
Hi Ron

The part is shown on Page 337 of 49-59 Illustrated Parts Catalogue. It is Part No. 9830. It is described in the Text Catalogue as Hanger Assembly - Engine to Accelerator Shaft.

Your bracket is missing the plate which supports the shaft. The two rivets on the bracket pass through this plate which has a ferrule which the shaft turns in. This is part of the throttle linkage for 55-56 cars. The above image also shows where the spring should fit.

Your bracket appears to have suffered the fate that Bill mentioned earlier.

Daniel has the parts catalogues on disc or you can download it from forum member simplyconnected as a PDF file - it is quite big though.

If you already have the accelerator connected and working this part has probably been stuck in the engine compartment and become dislodged when you have removed everything.

It does not appear to be used on the throttle linkage that has the spring loaded kickdown mechanism from 57's.

Regards
By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
Ron, it has the tab broken off as described, compare this pic if i can get it to come through on 2nd attempt., no 3rd attempt!!!!!!!, it is the support of the end of the linkage, then the 2 holes on back of block near distributor base should be evident. The small hole is for spring.

By oldcarmark - 15 Years Ago
There are 3 threaded holes next to the distributor.2 are parellel with each other.That bracket goes there with the hole sticking up for the spring facing  the distributor side.The bolts are just standard hardware 5/16 by 3/4 long I believe.The spring goes straight up and hooks to an arm off the bellcrank bolted on the intake manifold.The other hole next to where this bracket goes is for the bracket that hangs down for your wires to go through on the way around the block under the exhaust manifolds.If you dont have that bracket the 4 brackets and rubber insulators for the wires are available from any of the usual suppliers for about $25.00 for complete kit.
By oldcarmark - 15 Years Ago
Hey Aussiebill.That one in your pic is for 4bbl,same as mine.The original pic does not appear to have a piece taken off.Is the original for a 2 bbl setup maybe?
By PWH42 - 15 Years Ago
If this car has a standard transmission.I don't think there's anything missing from th bracket.Is it a stick or FOM?
By oldcarmark - 15 Years Ago
Its a Fordo Paul.He got a new flexplate because the brackets were falling off.
By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
oldcarmark (5/14/2010)
Hey Aussiebill.That one in your pic is for 4bbl,same as mine.The original pic does not appear to have a piece taken off.Is the original for a 2 bbl setup maybe?

Mark, the one i posted is common on all of our 272 engines and they are 2 bbl,s either stromberg or holley. regards bill.

By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
aussiebill (5/14/2010)
oldcarmark (5/14/2010)
Hey Aussiebill.That one in your pic is for 4bbl,same as mine.The original pic does not appear to have a piece taken off.Is the original for a 2 bbl setup maybe?

Mark, the one i posted is common on all of our 272 engines and they are 2 bbl,s either stromberg or holley. regards bill.

On checking the one on my LHD 56 sunliner,312, it has similar support, otherwise what supports the accel linkage end ?

By San Diego Ron - 15 Years Ago
The puzzle is coming together...wondered why the mystery part looked like overkill then today realized it stabilized end of throttle linkage and piece was broken off.

Ouch!

Shouldn't be too hard to make new one of these. Still don't see where other end of spring attaches???

By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
San Diego Ron (5/18/2010)
The puzzle is coming together...wondered why the mystery part looked like overkill then today realized it stabilized end of throttle linkage and piece was broken off.

Ouch!

Shouldn't be too hard to make new one of these. Still don't see where other end of spring attaches???

Spring attaches to only other hole on the bracket!

By San Diego Ron - 15 Years Ago
I know where it goes on bracket it is where other end of spring hooks has me puzzled.

That should hold for awhile

By oldcarmark - 15 Years Ago
Post a pic of the rest of the linkage that you have.Maybe the piece that the spring hooks to is missing or broken off.
By San Diego Ron - 15 Years Ago
Once I get this part hooked up hopefully I'll be able to see what spring connects to...can't be very far. Believe the bracket had not been attached to block because there were no loose bolts in area to mount it and I don't remember taking it off to pull engine, also it appearers engine may have been rebuilt not so long ago...may never know.

Now have bracket and SPRING hooked up and if it is not right...it does work.

There are two pieces on left with holes that may or may not be for something, could be for another application. Why didn't I paint this junk while apart? The larger spring is the one in question...as it is now not rubbing against other parts

There is grove at top where spring is seated, can anyone say if this is correct ...or close? If nothing else learning how to take pictures, too bad I didn't take pictures before disassembly...next time. Anyone out there ready to tear into engine..TAKE BEFORE PICTURES !!!