By Chemist64 - 15 Years Ago
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I have received a lot of help here so I thought I would tell everyone how I made this swap. I have a 55 Merc with the tea pot and wanted the new 390 CFM Holley. I did not want to buy a B manifold because I am still thinking about the Mummert manifold, even though I like a stock look. I bought the 390 Holley and a Trans-Dapt carb adaptor (#2064) from Summit. The adaptor comes with the holes cut in at the tea pot bolt pattern but the holes are not drilled all the way through. I then purchase allen wrench driven bolts. These were flat topped with a 45 degree angle from the edge of the head to the shaft. I then had the machine shop drill the holes with the 45 degree taper so the head was slightly counter sunk and the angle of the bolt head matched the adaptor. The adaptor was then bolted to the manifold with the original spacer in place and the Holley was installed on the adapter. The original throttle rod fit perfectly into a hole on the Holley but the clip that held it on the tea pot did not. The machine shop drilled a small hole in this shaft for a cotter pin to secure it in the linkage of the carb. My oil bath was dried out and dust and crumbles were falling out of it. I reused the oil bath by using someone elses idea from this site. I cut out the guts that are attached to the top lid of the oil bath, put the base of the oil bath on the carb, then installed a 9" chrome air cleaner inside the base with a wingnut to secure, and finally put the lid over the after market air cleaner with its own nut. It is a good paper element air cleaner inside but appears to be the stock oil bath on the engine. I hope this gives somone some alternatives for a carb upgrade without a manifold change. The change to the new Holley is like night and day over the tea pot. The adaptor costs about $20, bolts were $4, and the machine work cost $10. The other adaptors I found on the internet were about $90-100. At that price I would have bought the B manifold off of Ebay.
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By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
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Chemist64 (6/17/2010)
I have received a lot of help here so I thought I would tell everyone how I made this swap. I have a 55 Merc with the tea pot and wanted the new 390 CFM Holley. I did not want to buy a B manifold because I am still thinking about the Mummert manifold, even though I like a stock look. I bought the 390 Holley and a Trans-Dapt carb adaptor (#2064) from Summit. The adaptor comes with the holes cut in at the tea pot bolt pattern but the holes are not drilled all the way through. I then purchase allen wrench driven bolts. These were flat topped with a 45 degree angle from the edge of the head to the shaft. I then had the machine shop drill the holes with the 45 degree taper so the head was slightly counter sunk and the angle of the bolt head matched the adaptor. The adaptor was then bolted to the manifold with the original spacer in place and the Holley was installed on the adapter. The original throttle rod fit perfectly into a hole on the Holley but the clip that held it on the tea pot did not. The machine shop drilled a small hole in this shaft for a cotter pin to secure it in the linkage of the carb. My oil bath was dried out and dust and crumbles were falling out of it. I reused the oil bath by using someone elses idea from this site. I cut out the guts that are attached to the top lid of the oil bath, put the base of the oil bath on the carb, then installed a 9" chrome air cleaner inside the base with a wingnut to secure, and finally put the lid over the after market air cleaner with its own nut. It is a good paper element air cleaner inside but appears to be the stock oil bath on the engine. I hope this gives somone some alternatives for a carb upgrade without a manifold change. The change to the new Holley is like night and day over the tea pot. The adaptor costs about $20, bolts were $4, and the machine work cost $10. The other adaptors I found on the internet were about $90-100. At that price I would have bought the B manifold off of Ebay. Congratulations on your most informative and successfull carb swap, this sort of simple and well detailed article by you is part of what this site is about, a job well done! 
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By YellowWing - 15 Years Ago
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Creative thinking on your part. Thanks for sharing. Mike
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By speedpro56 - 15 Years Ago
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which distributer are you using?
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By HT32BSX115 - 15 Years Ago
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the new 390 CFM Holley
Howdy,
Which "new" Holley are you talking about?
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By speedpro56 - 15 Years Ago
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If using the newer style 390 cfm holley I would use the later 57 and up style distributer because the later holley will not give your engine the vacuum it needs under load which is not good for the engine.
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By Chemist64 - 15 Years Ago
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The old distributor is still in it. I am changing to the 57 and up distributor as soon as I get some time. I plan to go to the Pertronix as well as the coil, wires and plugs at the same time.
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By oldcarmark - 15 Years Ago
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If you are going with Pertronix I would suggest the Pertronix 2.Has the overheat protector if you leave the key in the "ön" position when working on it for example.The Pertronix 1 will burn out if left on.I just bought the P2 for mine.
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By kevinwalshe - 15 Years Ago
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Have you gotten the distributor yet? I went on Napa's website, and couldn't find the right one. I also have a 55 Merc, and I am sick of my t-pot leaking everywhere and giving me grief even after rebuilding it. I think she has seen better days as the years of sitting with old fuel in her have messed up the integrity of the metal. I am going to change mine over to the 390 cfm as well. Thanks for all the other info, it will help me a lot!
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By rgrove - 15 Years Ago
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I think that was my plan for the oil bath conversion; glad it worked out! One suggestion on the intake - I have one of the early mummert intakes, and I just painted it engine color. Nobody notices that it isnt stock. Pretty funny, actually. From looking at the website, his new one has the "Mummert" logo on it, so you would have that to contend with. Ive been trying to figure out if there is a good way to remove that and blend it in with the rest of the casting so I could do the updated manifold and paint it similar to my current setup. And Kevinwalshe, I may have a holley 390 that im going to put up on ebay or sell here soon, although honestly after running them back to back, I found the Holley 465 that is designed for these engines to make a little more power than the 390 without losing throttle response. Just something to consider
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By Chemist64 - 15 Years Ago
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I did the 57 distributor. I bought a rebuilt one from Oreilly's Auto Parts I think it was Item #30-2808 and is listed for a 61 F-100 with 292. Their smaller stores have to order it but their bigger warehouse store had it in stock. They had one listed as a new distributor for 62-64 with 292 but this is the wrong part. The car drove great with the new distributor and the 390 carb out of the box. So everyone here is right about the distributor change. I just received the Pertronix 3 in the mail. I am putting it on this weekend and will update with my opinion.
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By oldcarmark - 15 Years Ago
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Kevinwalshe! The distributor you want is remanned by Cardone.Part # is 30-2808.Best price I found was Autozone-$37.99 +core $15.00 total $52.99.I dont know what Oreiilys price is.You need a cap and rotor if not supplied with distributor.57-74 Ford 8 cylinder.If I was going to buy a carb now(I have the 390 Holley) I would go for the 465Cfm 1848 model.Little cheaper I think and it uses hotair choke like original or you can buy an electric conversion if you prefer.Either 390 or 465 is a good choice.Hope this info is helpful.If you buy that distributor and you really want to wake up the motor add a Mr Gasket advance spring kit.gets to full advance between 2000-2800 RPM.Have one in mine.really makes a difference in pickup.Part # 925D Mr.Gasket.About $4.00 well worth doing before you install the distributor.
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By kevinwalshe - 15 Years Ago
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Ron - I PM'd you about the 390 carb.
Mark - at this point I will go with whichever option is easier on the wallet. I have an auto trans (mercomatic) and believe the 465 isn't compatible with the kickdown. I could be wrong though. Looks like autozone is getting another order for that remanned dizzy! Didn't think I could actually get one for less than $150 so I'm stoked!
Kev
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By oldcarmark - 15 Years Ago
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Hello Kevin! Where is the kickdown rod on your linkage located?On my Fordo the kickdown is operated at the bellcrank at back of motor.Nothing to do with carb.Is Merc with auto differernt?
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By kevinwalshe - 15 Years Ago
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Just went out and looked, same as a fordo. Oops. I'm gonna see what Ron is selling his 390 for. I'm a young broke student so any deal I can get is better than retail.
Kev
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By oldcarmark - 15 Years Ago
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Kevin-I have the 390 on mine.If the price is right go with the 390.Whats Oreiilys price on the distributor?
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By kevinwalshe - 15 Years Ago
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I can't seem to find the o'reilly link but here is another one from advanced auto parts.. $51 smackaroos, core charge included.
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product__5630827-P_218_R%7CGRPTUNEAMS_516402470___
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By rgrove - 15 Years Ago
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Kevin, PM sent.
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