By flying-elvis - 15 Years Ago
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I am in the middle of rewiring my 55 wagon and have now gotten to the transmission. I have a couple of problems now. First, all my original wires were torn out before I got the car so I have to start from scratch, this is Ok everywhere else but a bit overwhelming at the transmission. Second major issue is that I am now have 12 volts instead of six. Does anyone have a simple diagram for wiring up my trans. I don't need that fancy of wirng just enough to get the overdrive working safely for a few months until I swap in an AOD trans. I have a schematic for the car but I have heard that some of the wiring could possibly be eliminated to simplify the circuit? Thanks
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By Doug T - 15 Years Ago
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Elvis, The dead simplest thing to do is take power from the ignition switch with an inline 30 amp fuse. Run to a SPST switch of some kind located conveniently. I have one from radioshack that has a 12 V indicator light that shows when it is on. Then wire to the powered side of the solinoid; for a '56 that is the blue wire, '55 may be the same. The solinoid will be fine with 12V. That is all you need to do. When you are driving start as normal with the OD cable pushed in. When you get to 3rd gear and the engine is racing some then you click the switch. After that lift off the gas and if the OD and solinoid are OK the trany will shift down to OD. When you want to disengage the OD, turn the switch off and lift off the gas. The car will freewheel. Feed the engine some gas until you feel it start to pull and then pull the cable out. The OD is now locked out and the car will drive as a normal 3 speed. When you forget to turn the switch off when you stop, it will be like trying to restart in second. It probably wont hurt anything but it isn't a good idea. Also be very careful about not reversing with the switch on. Normal 3spOD's have a mechanical block out to prevent damage but it might not work and OD does NOT work in reverse.
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By Ted - 15 Years Ago
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If the governor on the transmission is functional and the single wire coming from it is still in good shape, then tie the governor into your new wiring as this will allow the overdrive to drop out at low speed automatically. This solves the problem of forgetting to turn off the switch when coming to a stop and also alleviates the issue about putting the transmission in reverse with the overdrive activated. edit: To wire in the governor without a relay, the solenoid must be re-wired so that the internal coil does not go to ground. With both a positive and negative wire coming from the solenoid, the solenoid can then be wired in series with the governor. The original hot wire or lead on the solenoid will still go to the 12volt switch that Doug mentions.
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By Doug T - 15 Years Ago
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Hi Ted and Elvis, AS much as I hate to disagree with Ted, in this case there is a problem with the idea that you can use the govenor without the overdrive relay. The gov allows the relay to activate by grounding the relay's coil. It is a low amperage circuit that functions through the kickdown switch to power up the relay's coil. Wired the way Ted suggests the governor will just short out to ground when it reaches the critical speed. The OD solenoid is already grounded so it needs no separate ground. The second (orange) wire functions with the kickdown switch to short out the ignition momentarily so there is no torque from the engine so the OD can disengage hence the kickdown. There are two coils in the OD solenoid one is a rapid strong pull-in coil that takes a high current draw hence the 30 amp fuse. But it is only momentary because there is a second coil that retains the solenoid engaged but draws a very few amps. There is a very clear wiring diagram in the '56 shop manual on pg 132. My scanner is busted so I can not post it.
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By carl - 15 Years Ago
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I have a 56 ford overdrive manual that has the wireing diagram you need.Give me a PM with your address and i will copy it and send it to you Carl
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By Y block Billy - 15 Years Ago
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The latest hemmings magazine has a simple detail of the typical wiring for overdrives.
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By crenwelge - 15 Years Ago
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This is a discussion on BW overdrive. At the very bottom of the page is a schematic of how the factory wired them. http://www.hydratech.com/pctc/Public_Documents/bwwiring.pdf
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By Ted - 15 Years Ago
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Doug T (8/4/2010) AS much as I hate to disagree with Ted, in this case there is a problem with the idea that you can use the govenor without the overdrive relay. The gov allows the relay to activate by grounding the relay's coil. It is a low amperage circuit that functions through the kickdown switch to power up the relay's coil. Wired the way Ted suggests the governor will just short out to ground when it reaches the critical speed.Doug, feel free to disagree. Thanks for setting me straight as I was wrong in stating that the governor is a direct wire-in as I described it. I’ll totally agree that adding a relay to the system is the ideal method for inserting the governor back into the overdrive wiring. You did jog my memory though on what I had originally done on my ’55 which was rewire the solenoid internally so it had it’s own dedicated ground or negative wire coming from the coil within the solenoid rather than being grounded to the case. This simply allowed for a much less complicated wiring scheme without a relay. At the time this was much quicker and easier than a complete rewire of that system. This setup is still working fine after 20+ years but the weak point of this system are the breaker points within the governor with the amp load that’s applied whenever activating it. That will eventually have to be readdressed by putting a relay put back into the system but for now, still working fine.
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By flying-elvis - 15 Years Ago
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Hey guys thanks for all the info. I will work on the trans this weekend. Hopefully I will have overdrive when done. Not to critical to have it working, I'm not planning any long or many highway trips but it still would be nice to have until I could an AOD adapter kit.
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By Frankenstein57 - 15 Years Ago
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So , on my OD solenoid I have two wires which I thought was hot and common. They are both hot????
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By pintoplumber - 15 Years Ago
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Frankenstein57 (8/11/2010) So , on my OD solenoid I have two wires which I thought was hot and common. They are both hot????
Like Doug says, use the blue wire to your switch. The orange wire doesn't get used, it's for the kickdown circuit which you won't be using.
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By pegleg - 15 Years Ago
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Some body do a schematic of what doug's trying to say.
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By Frankenstein57 - 15 Years Ago
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I got it, I just assumed the other wire was a ground.
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