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By nonne_56 - 15 Years Ago
Hi Y-blocks people. Have to say that this forum is top class education.

My first post here.

I am from Sweden and a proud owner of a Victoria 1956, 292 and Ford o Matic. I just booked a flight to LA on Monday for a 2 days shopping tour in CA area. My planning is to get all engine parts, valve covers and other parts from Mummert's and also visit Red's Headers to take a look at his headers. Mooneys in Santa Fe Springs lookes also like a nice place to visit. I will also pick up my MSD dist and coil and my instrument from Classic Instrument. It's a early Christmas for me!:

Do this planning sounds good or have i miss something, is this good places to spend my money or you guys over there have any better idea's about shopping parts for Y-blocks in CA. Maybe some other "water hole" that i just have to visit as a Y-block/Old Ford nut.

A technical question, can anyone help me what the threads are in a Y-block, i need to buy bits to clean all bolt holes.

In the shop here, if it's not metric it dosn't exist.

Thank's for a very good forum

By LON - 15 Years Ago
nonne 56 ,

Where are you staying in CA ??? I was there about 8 weeks ago .We stayed in Anaheim , Los Angeles .Plenty of Speed Shops ( Fast Eddies ,Reids Rod Shop, Larry's Thunderbird ,  Chip Foose , etc ,etc) ,all within 30 minutes drive .John Mummert shop is only about 2 hrs away .Heaps of things to do ,heaps of stuff to buy .Happy shopping .

Lon

By Ted - 15 Years Ago

Welcome to the site.  Taps for chasing threads in a Y block will include 5/16-18, 3/8-16, 7/16-14, & ½-13.  'Thread Chasing Taps' are recommended if simply cleaning up the threaded holes but worn bottoming taps can work for this also.

By nonne_56 - 15 Years Ago
Thanks Ted, added to my shopping list.

I will stay in Yorba Linda, not far away from Anaheim so there will be more shops to visit. Thank you for the tips. 

Nonne

By HT32BSX115 - 15 Years Ago
Howdy,





You could just drop over to Sears and get a "Craftsman" Tap and die set (or any tap and die set). Most of them include a thread gage for determining the threads per inch etc...



If you're not sure about a particular bolt, just screw a die on it..... if it goes easily, it's probably the correct size!



Cheers,





Rick












By Bob's 55 - 15 Years Ago
HT32BSX115 (10/21/2010)
Howdy,



You could just drop over to Sears and get a "Craftsman" Tap and die set (or any tap and die set). Most of them include a thread gage for determining the threads per inch etc...



If you're not sure about a particular bolt, just screw a die on it..... if it goes easily, it's probably the correct size!



Cheers,



Rick







Correct me if I'm wrong but you don't want to chase threads with a tap. It will remove metal, making the threads weaker.
By speedpro56 - 15 Years Ago
YES it's a great idea to chase threads to make sure they go all the to the end and make for a better fit because misalienment with the threads can infact strip them out.
By Bob's 55 - 15 Years Ago
speedpro56 (10/21/2010)
YES it's a great idea to chase threads to make sure they go all the to the end and make for a better fit because misalienment with the threads can infact strip them out.




Agreed, it's a good idea to "chase threads". That is why they make thread chasers. I don't think it is a good idea to use a tap to chase threads.
By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
Bob's 55 (10/21/2010)
speedpro56 (10/21/2010)
YES it's a great idea to chase threads to make sure they go all the to the end and make for a better fit because misalienment with the threads can infact strip them out.


Agreed, it's a good idea to "chase threads". That is why they make thread chasers. I don't think it is a good idea to use a tap to chase threads.

Surely, the tap would only be removing glue, grease or grime, and would not be removing metal as the hole is allready the finished size?Smile

By charliemccraney - 15 Years Ago
aussiebill (10/21/2010)


Surely, the tap would only be removing glue, grease or grime, and would not be removing metal as the hole is already the finished size?Smile




That's what I think. I've only used taps and haven't had problems. I don't own thread chasers. If the tap removes enough metal to cause problems, it's the wrong tap or went in crooked or maybe is some Chinese piece of junk.
By aussiebill - 15 Years Ago
charliemccraney (10/21/2010)
aussiebill (10/21/2010)

Surely, the tap would only be removing glue, grease or grime, and would not be removing metal as the hole is already the finished size?Smile


That's what I think. I've only used taps and haven't had problems. I don't own thread chasers. If the tap removes enough metal to cause problems, it's the wrong tap or went in crooked or maybe is some Chinese piece of junk.

Charlie, thats how i think also. i,ve not seen a thread chaser used for holes but have used them in lathe when finishing maching threads on rods to finalise the size.Tongue

By Bob's 55 - 15 Years Ago
OK, OK. Three against one, haha. But since I do have a set of thread chasers I will continue to use them. Just a thought tho. When you tighten a bolt, does it not pull up on the threads and distort the metal? After 50 odd years?



Now back to the mans original question.
By nonne_56 - 15 Years Ago
Hi, i started this post, you are a bunch of helpful guys. I found a lot of Speedshops in the area where i will stay so filling up my two bags will not be any problem. Bad thing that Mummert is out of intakes.

Thanks for all tips.

Nonne

By The Master Cylinder - 15 Years Ago
Yorba Linda, heh? You could visit The Richard M. Nixon Library while there.
By marvh - 15 Years Ago
Here is some information on thread chasers and thread taps. There is a difference.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4770  
check on the writeup by digger dave

also
http://video.arp-bolts.com/catalog/ARPCatalog.pdf
page 87

and
http://video.arp-bolts.com/catalog/ARPCatalog.pdf  

marv
By charliemccraney - 15 Years Ago
I stand corrected. A google search turns up a lot of info on the subject. I'll have to change my ways.
By Bob's 55 - 15 Years Ago
Marv, thank you for the information. The other fellas had me thinking I was nuts (well I am, but). I have always used thread chasers. I have a set of both, thread chasers and taps & dies.



I haven't had time to read all the info from ARP yet, but I will. There is some good stuff in there.
By MoonShadow - 15 Years Ago
Gee if your nuts you are definately in the right place! As long as your Y-Nuts. Chuck in NH
By mctim64 - 15 Years Ago
The Master Cylinder (10/23/2010)
Yorba Linda, heh? You could visit The Richard M. Nixon Library while there.

You beat me to it. Tongue

As for thread chasers, I just use a bolt of the size I need and cut four grooves down the side. Kinda like a tap but wont take metal out just the rust and junk. Wink

By The Master Cylinder - 15 Years Ago
nonne 56, I see your coming into LAX tomorrow???w00tw00t I live just South of LAX. Looks like the skies have cleared up for you (for right now anyway). Been raining the last week off and on (Or what we in SoCal call rain anyway).



Two days of shopping does give you much time for visiting. There are some cool places near by, (besides the Nixon Library, Ha) . Like John Force Racing in Yorba Linda http://bundyfinkelarchitects.com/Projects/369-John-Force/369.htmlor the Nethercutt Collection in Sylmar. http://www.nethercuttcollection.org/ if your into that sort of thing.



Hope you have a nice trip and fill your shopping bags with all you need.
By The Master Cylinder - 15 Years Ago
Ha,ha It's only ~5400 miles from Sweden to California. I would imagine your already on the plane as I write this... DUH!!
By nonne_56 - 15 Years Ago
Hi, thanks for the info but i miss the rain by one day. Just put my bags on the scale and found that i can shop 6 more kilos, some more place to visit tomorrow. John Forces place is just on the other side of the highway from where i live.

Well, one more day then it's back to winter and snow again but it doesn't matter i have plenty of things to do in my garage



Nonne
By Mr Sweden - 15 Years Ago
Hej! Kul att vi är fler här ute som har Y och som tycker om sådana här mkt fina gamla saker. Köpte i somras min första Y blockare, har skruvat en hel del SB men Y är rätt kultigt och hittade detta forum då jag har visst problem. Hoppas du får tag på info här, så även jag innan man börjar kasta pengar i onödan. Mvh Per. And for you American friends, this is how Swedish looks in writing when you say hello to a fellow Swede whith the same interest, guess you recognice some words. Regards Per.
By nonne_56 - 15 Years Ago
Hi Per

Same with me, working with US cars since early 70's and 15 years with dragracing. Sure it's fun and relaxing to work with Y's. I am from south Sweden (  Skåne ) where are you from?

Nonne

By charliemccraney - 14 Years Ago
Craftsman have a set of chasers for Metric, standard, fine and coarse, and thread files for $50.00, and still made in the USA. I picked up a set yesterday. I think they actually call it a thread repair set. I will try it out in the next few days.
By 46yblock - 14 Years Ago
charliemccraney (10/18/2011)
Craftsman have a set of chasers for Metric, standard, fine and coarse, and thread files for $50.00, and still made in the USA. I picked up a set yesterday. I think they actually call it a thread repair set. I will try it out in the next few days.

Charlie, do you happen to have a Craftsman item number for the set?  A nearby lumber store recently picked up the Craftsman line, and I can have them order the chasers.

By charliemccraney - 14 Years Ago
Actually, it looks like there are 2 kits.



48 piece Sears Item# 00942275000 | Model# 971 2750

40 piece Sears Item# 00952105000 | Model# 52105



The 48 piece has additional metric components
By 46yblock - 14 Years Ago
Thanks.  It is good this topic came up, having heard previously to use thread chasers not taps.  Looked for chasers, no luck, so like most others have been using taps.  I couldnt even find them in the Enco catalogue.