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By sallens - 14 Years Ago
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There seems that no oil is reaching my rockers on one side of my engine it is dry . can some one help me please as i dont know much about these engines and dont want to damage the engine.i have had both covers off and oil is reaching the other side. the heads i have are ECZ-G picture below 
the next picture is of the valves 
can someone please help on what to do thanks steve
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By Hoosier Hurricane - 14 Years Ago
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Steve: What I would do is loosen the rocker stand bolts about 1/2 to 1 turn, and run the engine to see if oil oozes out from under one of the inner stands. If it does, then the rocker shaft needs to be cleaned of sludge, if no oil oozes out, then the passagway from the cam bearing to the top of the head needs attention. It will be noisy running with the stands loose, but won't hurt anything.
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By sallens - 14 Years Ago
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JOHN THANKS FOR THE REPLY I HAVE NOW TAKEN THE ROCKER SHAFT OUT AND TOTALY CLEANED IT , I PUT A WIRE DOWN IN TO THE HEADS IN THE OIL HOLE PUT BACK TOGETHER I STILL HAVE NO OIL ON THAT RIGHT SIDE . LEFT SIDE OF ENGINE IS FINE. WHAT IS NEXT TO DO??? STEVE.
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By YellowWing - 14 Years Ago
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Steve, how are you determining there is no oil, is it with engine running. The reason I ask is you may have a cross drilled cam. If you are using a drill and extension through the distributor hole you need to slowly turn the crankshaft and see if you then have oil. If you have tried this and are sure you have no oil you could have a stoppage at the cylinder head. The next step would be to remove that head and check for sludge between the block and head, fairly common if sludge was ever allowed to build up in the engine. Mike
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By Ted - 14 Years Ago
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Assuming you have a center grooved camshaft, the center cam bearing may have enough wear that the oil flow to the top is restricted or shut off. When the camshaft journal groove wears heavily into the cam bearing, oil to the the passenger side rocker bank normally shuts off first simply due to the rotational direction of the camshaft. But one other thing to do before going deeper into the engine is to build a flat plate that bolts to the head over the rocker oil supply hole that has a grease zerk in the plate. Then take white lithium grease and pump into the hole which may clear up the oil passage under the head. The dog leg that the oil must make at the head gasket could potentially be sludged up and the grease will force this back down and clear the passage. You might try doing the same with air pressure but using the grease applies considerably more pressure in clearing the galley.
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By sallens - 14 Years Ago
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THANKS TED AND MIKE IT IS THE DRIVERS SIDE THAT HAS NO OIL THE PASSENGER SIDE SEAMS TO BR OK . THE PLATE THAT TED SAID TO MAKE IS ONLY THIN , SO THAT IT SLIDES UNDER THE ROCKER TOWER, HOW MUCH GREASE SHOULD I PUT DOWN THE HOLE AND HOW LONG SHOULD I RUN THE ENGINE FOR STEVE.
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By charliemccraney - 14 Years Ago
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The plate doesn't slide under the tower. You bolt it in place of the tower,the shaft assembly must be removed, and pump grease into the supply hole.
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By sallens - 14 Years Ago
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what then start and run the engine. steve
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By Ted - 14 Years Ago
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The plate is going to be at least thick enough that it can be tapped for a grease zerk which means 3/16” or thicker. I’ve just made them from scrap laying around. The rockers are not in place and the engine is not running when clearing the oil passage with grease. It's not expected to take over a dozen grease gun pumps to clear the passage. On the flip side, if grease pressure suddenly builds to point that no more grease will go into the passage, you may have a camshaft bearing issue.
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By sallens - 14 Years Ago
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sorry misunderstood now know what you mean steve
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By sallens - 14 Years Ago
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THANKS FOR ALL THE ADVICE. HAVE NOW TRIED THE GREASE ZERK AND STILL NO JOY, I THEN TRIED SQUIRTING A DEGREASEING AGENT DOWN THE HOLE, THIS JUST KEPT DISSAPEARING SO IT SEAMS THE HOLE IS NOT BLOCKED. WHAT SHOULD I DO NEXT.???? ANYONE GOT ANY MORE IDEAS?? CAN I STILL DRIVE THIS WITH THE VALVES NOT GETING ANY OIL?? STEVE. 
A PICTURE OF MY ENGINE ....................
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By charliemccraney - 14 Years Ago
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Have you removed the distributor and turned the oil pump manually, with the rocker shaft removed to ensure that oil is not making it to the head?
If you don't drive it often, and drive only short distances, you can get away with manually oiling the rockers for a while, but ultimately you're going to have to fix it.
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By oldcarmark - 14 Years Ago
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As a last resort you could get hold of one of the aftermarket kits that tap into the oil passage in the block and run oil up to the non functioning rocker shaft.These kits were sold back in the day to solve the problem you are having.Sounds like the cam bearing oil feed hole has closed up.The kits show up on Ebay quite often.Not the best solution because it "steals" oil from the crank but it works as a cheaper solution than tearing down the motor. There is one of those kits on Ebay now.Item #310286962615.They show up quite often on Ebay.
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By sallens - 14 Years Ago
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IF the cam bearing oil feed hole has closed WHY AM I STILL GETTING OIL TO THE PASSENGER SIDE????
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By MoonShadow - 14 Years Ago
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Unfortunately there is no easy fix for this one. As Ted mentioned the loss to the passenger side first is a result of the direction of the cam rotation. There isn't enough pressure or oil left to enter that sides oil passages. The overhead oiler will prolong the operation of the rockers but won't fix the problem. Eventually you are going to have to replace the cam bearings. The longer you run the engine with oil feed problems the more damage will occur to other bearing and surfaces. If the engine is running well with no suspicious noises you might get away with a tear down, inspection and replacement of cam, rod and main bearings. (If luck is with you). Really sounds like time for a rebuild. The longer you wait the more it will cost. My 2cents, Chuck in NH
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By Bob's 55 - 14 Years Ago
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Thought he said it was the drivers side that wasn't getting oil, not the passenger side. 
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By MoonShadow - 14 Years Ago
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Isn't Sallens in England or Europe? Left or right hand drive? Stil dosen't change my opinion that wtih luck a moderate rebuild could be done now or an expensive one down the road. I have a whole pile of parts from my last engine that lost oil circulation. It's not pretty. Piston, cam, lifters, two rods etc. I don't know what Sallens situation is but if I had a workspace available I'd be pulling the engine. Too pretty to mess up! Chuck in NH
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By Bob's 55 - 14 Years Ago
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Not sure where he's from, don't see it mentioned anywhere. Regardless he does need to find out the problem before it become worse.
Nice trio of Strombergs you have, Steve. Hope you get you get your problem solved.
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By PF Arcand - 14 Years Ago
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Steve: Just a thought, does you engine have a oil pressure guage? If it only has a dash light, it may be suffering from a low pressure situation..
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By sallens - 14 Years Ago
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THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP SO FAR THE FORUM IS GREAT I AM HAVING SO MUCH TROUBLE LOADING THIS REPLY.I KEEP GETTING THIS The board administrator has requested that you must provide some message content within your post. WHAT IS MESSAGE CONTENT???????????? THERE HAS BEEN A BID OF CONFUSION ON DRIVERS SIDE AND PASSENGER SIDE MY CAR IS RIGHT HAND DRIVE THE OIL IS NOT GETTING TO THE DISTRUTOR SIDE OF THE ENGINE ........... I AM IN ESSEX THE SOUTH EAST OF THE UK , A PLACE CALLED SOUTHEND -ON -SEA I HAVE JUST NOTICED THAT THE OIL PRESSURE GAUGUE IS READING ZERO IF I NEED A REBUILD WHERES THE BEST PLACE TO BUY PARTS REMEMBER I AM IN ENGLAND. THE MORE HELP I RECIEVE THE EASIER THE PROJECT THIS IS THE FIRST Y ENGINE THAT I HAVE OWNED . 
THIS IS A PICTURE OF MY CAR, IT IS A 1956 ENGLISH FORD POPULAR (SIT UP AND BEG) THIS IS WHAT I HAVE THE 292 Y ENGINE IN. STEVE.
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By Ted - 14 Years Ago
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When I mentioned passenger side rockers losing oil first, I was assuming left hand drive. Rephrased, cylinders 1-4 or the right bank (looking from steering wheel and assuming the engine is in front of the vehicle) loses oil first to the rockers on cam bearing wear related oiling problems. What kind of hot and cold oil pressure readings does the engine have when it’s idling? Here are some previous threads talking about ‘soft’ cam bearings. http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/Topic10041-3-1.aspx http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/Topic34291-3-1.aspx http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/Topic44716-3-1.aspx http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/Topic36955-3-1.aspx The cheap fix if it is indeed a cam bearing related issue will be an overhead oiler.
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By YellowWing - 14 Years Ago
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Steve, Ted is correct the first thing to determine is what oil pressure you have. If it is low major engine damage is imminent. Low pressure is most likely a result of a worn engine (overhaul time) but could be caused by a bad or worn pump. Pumps can be replaced easily on Y's as they are externally mounted. As for the posting problem. If you start your post with special characters, font,size,photos, etc, you can get the message about content. I just type something at the start of the post like "Steve here" then put in the special characters and everything seems to work fine. This seems to have been done by the administrator( along with the site freezing as you hit enter for your post ) to drive us all crazy. Little knowing he is already too late.
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By sallens - 14 Years Ago
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steve here thanks yellowwing for the advise so you think it might be an oil pump problem how do i find this out???? the oil pressure gauge is not moving from zero cold or hot i dont think i can get the distributor out because the engine is too close to the firewall. steve.
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By 46yblock - 14 Years Ago
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I have a similar problem with dist. and firewall. It cant be placed or removed unless the cap is taken off.
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By YellowWing - 14 Years Ago
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If you can't get the distributor out so you can use a drill to drive the oil pump the only option would be to remove and inspect the pump. Are you sure you have no pressure? Have you checked with a manual gauge? Would hate to see you tearing into the pump or engine due to a bad gauge.
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By Talkwrench - 14 Years Ago
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I understand that you are get some oil and by the sounds of it it could be a cam bearing. Just out of interest have you changed your oil and stuck your finger in the sump to have a feel whats its like in there, your guaze filter to the pickup maybe blocked and that wont help any either.. just a thought start from the bottom and work up too.... You should have seen what mine was like!
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By Ted - 14 Years Ago
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Steve. I’ll suggest trying another oil pressure gauge in one of the galley ports in the side of the block. Just pick a port that’s easy to get to as they are all on a common gallery. If you haven’t changed the oil filter, then that’s also a possibility. While under the vehicle, put a 1” open end wrench on the nut on the tube going into the oil pump and insure it’s ‘snugged’ up. Sucking any air in at this point will reduce the oil pressure significantly..
As far as the oil pump goes, a careful disassembly of it might show a 'stuck open' relief valve or excessive wear on the gears but trying another pump is sometimes the easiest way to determine if the pump is indeed the problem.
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By shakey pete - 14 Years Ago
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just a thought if your oil filter is it the old style canister maybe the relief vale in the filter tube iis stuck open or closed so it won,t build up pressure the spin on type has it built in it ,and your engine looks like it has a fair amount of sludge in it maybe try a 50 50 mix solvent and oil to try and clean it up check with oil pressure live gage and if oil pump is ok then you might have a spun bearing just my thought Shakey Pete ( Lots of luck )
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