3-speed overdrive, floorshifter options


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By Frankenstein57 - 14 Years Ago
I have a 58 ranchero with a y-block, and a 3-speed OD trans. I got a mr gasket shifter with the car, I had to cobble it up pretty good to make it work. Anyone have another option for a floorshift linkage?
By ecode ragtop - 14 Years Ago
Mark, Do you have a T-85 or T-86? Tom
By salf100 - 14 Years Ago
Frank, i started this same post bout 3 weeks ago and got limited info. I found out that you can use a shifter from a late 70's jeep 3 spd, but no one offers the conversion kit anymore. We need to put our heads together and figure this one out. Ive been researching this for over a year and still nothing!
By crenwelge - 14 Years Ago
Hurst built their Mystery Shifter about 50 years ago. It is the best shifter I have ever used on a Borg Warner OD. I have bought several NOS ones on eBay, as well as good used ones. I can take some pictures of the mounting and linkage and email them. The mounting can be fabricated. I have found several on eBay by searching Ford Overdrive Hurst.
By Richard - 14 Years Ago
I just took photos of my early Hurst shifter and mounting bracket to my T85 with OD. How can I post them on here so you all can see. Still not convinced this will clear the seat in my 54 Ranch wagon.
By Richard - 14 Years Ago
This might work



By Richard - 14 Years Ago
One more



By Daniel Jessup - 14 Years Ago
Ok, now my interest is piqued too. I haved a T85 with the R11 gears and I am wondering what I am going to use for a shifter. I have an old NOS hurst shifter, I will have to get out that box and see what it says. If I remember correctly, it does say 55-56 Fords, but nothing about overdrive.

Richard - I would say that with that shifter arm, there is NO way that you are going to clear. Seems to me that I remember that a few years back Hoosier Hurricane posted some photos of a good setup that he had, or one that he had seen. There was a nice "Z" in the arm to clear the bench when you went all the way back like that last photo you have there.

Have you taken any measurements on the wagon's body?

By glrbird - 14 Years Ago
Richard

could you cut it off, drill and tap the shifter and bolt this to it.  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VINTAGE-HURST-INDY-STRAIGHT-SHIFTER-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2c5a417260QQitemZ190492799584QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

By Glen Henderson - 14 Years Ago
Richard, I can't offer any help with the shifter, but I can tell you that is one fine looking Y block. Good luck with it.
By Richard - 14 Years Ago
Thank you for your comments/complements , I will most likely go for bucket seats or a three on the tree. Regarding the shifter, I have never seen this flat stock Hurst with a two piece plastic handle affixed to the top with a throw hole screw I suspect it as a very early unit.

Regardless the thread is floor shifter with overdrive and this is the bracket I made for it. Hope it helps



Regards,

Richard
By Richard - 14 Years Ago
I would never cut the shifter its way to rare to f=== it up



THX
By 56mercgal - 14 Years Ago
Where did you get the chrome oil breather cap? I can't find one anywhere! And I desperatly need a new one!
By Richard - 14 Years Ago
I got the oil filler cap at Pep Boys, but that was years ago.
By sundance241 - 14 Years Ago
Richard , Just a thought ,  why dont you use a 55,56,or57 T-bird standard shifter,  it bolts to the floor , i plan to use one on a 56 ford pass. car..... might be a little pricey ,  but i  have seen them on Ebay ....  The engine looks real good .....Good luck  ..Sam
By aussiebill - 14 Years Ago
56mercgal (1/24/2011)
Where did you get the chrome oil breather cap? I can't find one anywhere! And I desperatly need a new one!

Dennis carpenter, tee bird products, all have the chrome cap.BigGrin

By Frankenstein57 - 14 Years Ago
Thanks to all the response, I've been a little sick and have not checked the site for a couple days. Tom, I think we talked about the trans numbers before, I'm not sure how to I.D it. It has the electric solenoid sticking out the side, the three shift arms. Next time I'm at the shop I'll snap a picture, and record the numbers.
By crenwelge - 14 Years Ago
If it is a T86, it will have a tin cover on the top of it. If it is a T86, I have one setting out with a Hurst shifter on it that I can photograph. The Hurst shifter will work in a 56 Ford with a bench seat and I am quite sure it will work in a later one with a bench. I added a photo of a T86 with a Hurst shifter I took some time ago.





http://picasaweb.google.com/crenwelgeoil/HurstShifter#5507963795610956834
By RB35 - 14 Years Ago
Richard,

Could you provide me with a measurement from the tip of the fan to the rear of the dizzy or rearmost valve cover, please?

I'm doing some prelim mock ups for a Y in a '29 Coupe and that would be helpful.

Thanks and sorry about the hi-jack,

RB

By salf100 - 14 Years Ago
Crenwelge, is that a Hurst syncromesh shifter? Ive seen them on ebay for around $100 bucks. Looks like thats the way Im going to go, since I cant find any info on the Jeep trans upgrade.
By crenwelge - 14 Years Ago
It is what they called the mystery shifter, and in my opinion it is the best shifter Hurst ever built for a 3 speed. The shifter part is universal. It is the mounting brackets and levers that were model specific. There is a NOS shift box on eBay right now , item no. 330518775649 , that I would buy if I didn't have so many already. I have bought a lot of T86 gears from the guy and also gears for the GMC pickups I play with.
By Richard - 14 Years Ago
RB



29.5 inches Fan Tip to valve cover edge.



Richard
By Frankenstein57 - 14 Years Ago
I bought a hurst mystery shifter on ebay, about 47$ delivered. No linkage, probably have to make that, I already altered the tunnel for the Chinese shifter, hope it clears.