HELP!!! Can't get a TITLE!~


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By Apache - 14 Years Ago
I recieved my 57' Ford as a gift from my uncle. He has registrations etc etc (From New York). But I'm in FL, and they say they won't register it unless I have a title. He states that the 57 Fairlane never had a title. I call BS!!!!



Can someone please help me figure this out...



Also, I looked into getting a duplicate title made in NY and just getting it transfered to me that way. But, I looked at the duplicate title form and it says it's for 73' and newer cars...



SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!?!?!?!?
By 62galxe - 14 Years Ago
check and see if you can get a bonded title.
By carl - 14 Years Ago
does the 57 have a data(vin) plate if it has one there might be a way to get a title .Carl
By Apache - 14 Years Ago
Yes, it does have a vin #. I'm thinking my best bet is to try and find a way to get a title from NY
By glrbird - 14 Years Ago
You may have to get your uncle apply for a lost title with in information off the car, then transfer it to you.
By kevink1955 - 14 Years Ago
A 57 ford from NY would not have had a title, I think the info you have on 73 and up is correct.

NY registrations that can be transfered will have a space on the back to transfer the vehicle to the new owner, later titled cars have registrations marked non transferable.

You wil never get NY to issue a title for the car as they never had one.

The old signed registration and a written and signed bill of sale is all that would be required in NY.

Try again in FLA and if you are lucky you may get someone in DMV that knows what they are talking about.

Also search the NY DMV web site, I remember seeing title vs year info there

By Apache - 14 Years Ago
kevink1955 (2/3/2011)
A 57 ford from NY would not have had a title, I think the info you have on 73 and up is correct.



NY registrations that can be transfered will have a space on the back to transfer the vehicle to the new owner, later titled cars have registrations marked non transferable.



You wil never get NY to issue a title for the car as they never had one.



The old signed registration and a written and signed bill of sale is all that would be required in NY.



Try again in FLA and if you are lucky you may get someone in DMV that knows what they are talking about.



Also search the NY DMV web site, I remember seeing title vs year info there




Okay, thank you for this info. This is what my uncle and I were originall told, but the person at the FL DMV said there HAS to be a title. I guess I'm going back down to the DMV to raise hell in the morning. Sad thing is, I just sent the registration and bill of sale back to him in NY....
By kevink1955 - 14 Years Ago
Found this on NYS DMV site, scroll almost to the bottom for transfer from private owner info

http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/broch/c18.htm

By MoonShadow - 14 Years Ago
Raising hell at DMV rarely helps. They are some of the smallest of bureaucrats and will dig in for the long haul. You need to talk to different folks there. Someone knows what you have to do. Most states have a provision for vehicles without titles. New Hampshire does not issue titles for vehicles over 15 years old. When I was reassigned to Texas they flat refused to register my 41 Convertible because I only had a bill of sale. It took some searching and questioning but I found that all I had to do was have a state trooper confirm my VIN so they could run it against stolen vehicles. Suddenly no more problem. Talk to local hot rod clubs. Those guys go through this stuff all the time. Chuck in NH 
By Speedbump - 14 Years Ago
Got a "bonded" title here in AZ for my 55 for $100(bond and title fee based on depreciated value, not "real value".)  It was quick and virtually pain free.  If your time is at all valuable, I would reccomend this route.  It was too easy.
By 55vickey - 14 Years Ago
Maine has pretty lax title laws. When I couldn't get a title for my 55 in Wisconsin I got one thru a title agency in Maine or New york. They registered the vehicle in their own names, then sold it to me for the cost of the title, mailed everything to me and I was all set to go. Should be something on the net like that. Gary
By mongo - 14 Years Ago
fl lady does not know what she is talking about, as nieghbor state ga. had no titles until 73 also, fl has the police come over ,inspect the vin, match with your part 2 ny reg. ,sign and transfer part.
By Chemist64 - 14 Years Ago
I had a non-titled car in Georgia.  I moved to Utah and had to get a supervisor at the DMV that knew what to look up.  There is a book with all the state laws. They had to verify the VIN, but then issued me a title.
By Y block Billy - 14 Years Ago
Maine never required Titles for cars until maybe the mid 90's, then you only needed a title for anything newer than 10 years old. Now they have upped it to anything 15 years old or newer. anything older than that you only need a bill of sale to register it. I have boughten several cars from out of state and never had a problem registering them.

Why some states make it so ridiculous is beyond me, why can't they understand people buy these cars from junk yards and they may have been sitting 20-40 years or so, restore them and want to rejuvenate something from the dead, and these idiots expect you have a title for something like that.

By PWH42 - 14 Years Ago
Want hear something really ridiculous? A while back,I decided to scrap a couple of the rusted out hulks I had stripped and found out that salvage yards will not take anything without a title.At least that's the case in Missouri.Ridiculous Huh!!!!!!!
By Hoosier Hurricane - 14 Years Ago
Paul:

Indiana scrap dealers are supposed to have titles supplied when scrapping a car.  A couple years ago a young man helped me clean up the barnyard of old farm equipment, and there was an old car there, but no title.  He said the scrap dealer could take it if it was not in runnable condition, and promptly bashed the top in with his tractor scoop, and hauled it away.  No problem.  I was afraid I was going to have to cut it up in small pieces to junk it. 

By MoonShadow - 14 Years Ago

I found the following information at:

http://www.dmv.org/fl-florida/title-transfers.php

Notice paragraph 5 mentions additional fees for cars from states other than Florida. That indicates to me they have a method inplace to solve your problem. I also sent a query to Florida DMV.

 

Used Cars

Used cars offer many great deals, but only if you do your homework first. Shop around online to find your perfect car. Then, when you’ve narrowed down your choices, buy a vehicle history report. This tells you the car’s history, like whether or not it’s a salvage or if it’s been in a major accident. For one fee, you can look at the reports of as many cars as you want for a set time.

Most people don’t have the necessary cash to pay for a car outright, so you may need to think about getting a car loan to finance your purchase. Decide how much you can afford and what kind of payment you can handle.

Finally, before you buy the car, you should get an insurance quote, too. Insurance rates vary by car, and this payment must figure into your overall budget.

  1. Get a bill of sale so sales tax can be properly calculated.
  2. Have the seller fill out the odometer reading (double check this) and sales price.
  3. Both of you sign and date the title.
  4. Take your insurance card or a Florida insurance affidavit in to a tax collector’s office.
  5. Pay $75.25 for a car previously registered in Florida; an additional $2.50 is charged if you need a paper title and $2 should you need to record a lien. Other fees apply if it’s from another state. Expedited service is available at some locations for $10 extra.
  6. Don’t forget to take your ID and be prepared to register your car, too.

Check this out. Hope it helps!

By paul2748 - 14 Years Ago
No matter how mad you get, raising hell at any DMV will get you no where. You have to come in with facts, facts and more facts like the transfer on the back of the registrations. These people aren't the brightest and they get ticked off if you raise hell. Get a copy of the New York law and take it with you. Ask, politely, for a supervisor if you can't get a clerk to to help.



You catch more bees (and titles) with honey than with vinegar.
By PWH42 - 14 Years Ago
John............"Not runnable condition" doesn't apply here.The two I wanted to scrap had no drivetrain,no front suspension,no rear end and no doors and they still wouldn't take them.I finally found a place 70 miles away that would take them if I removed all the VIN information and brought them over late on a Saturday afternoon.More than one way to skin a cat!!!!!!!!!
By MoonShadow - 14 Years Ago
The sad thing is the governments don't realize that they have forced you and the junk guy to "break the law" as its written. And they will refuse to hear any arguments to the contrary. So an old farm with the usual scrap vehicles sitting around can't get rid of them without a lawbreaking assist. DUMB!

New Hampshire is a bill of sale state for anything over 15 years old. Sounds great as long as you don't move out of state or even worse sell a car out of state. Then its stress all the way. Not only do they not issue titles (even for purpose of out of state sales) they require you to turn in any title on a car that you register in state that has one.

I think they are trying to rid the roads of these dangerous old polluters by making intrastate transfers difficult. Talks to the DMV folks at the state level not local. Chuck in NH

By ecode ragtop - 14 Years Ago
PLAYING OVER AT THE H.A.M.B. FOUND THIS FROM THE SEMA ACTION NETWORK TITLE INFORMATION FROM ALL STATES.

http://www.semasan.com/main/main.aspx?id=62843

HOPE THIS HELPS TOM

By Old Y Block - 14 Years Ago
William; Try getting a title under a "home made" vehicle. Some states allow it. Check with your local license bureau for the particulars, they can tell you, and if you can you will get a title and a new VIN.

Old Yblock

Kerrville, Texas

By Big6ft6 - 14 Years Ago
Man, reading all of this makes me really sad.  I hate to think that there is any momentum to get rid of old cars, it is so illogical, classic cars make up such a small percentage of miles driven in this country it is absurd to target them for pollution.

My grandfather gave me his 56, he didn't offer a title but I also haven't asked yet.  I sure hope he has one laying around somewhere, the car was registered last in the 70's.

By MoonShadow - 14 Years Ago
Check out the SEMA link above or go here:

http://www.semasan.com/images/pdf/SAN-2010-12-Titling-Reg-Complete-WI.pdf

Reading this will tell you what you need or need to do in Wisconsin. Chuck in NH

By paul2748 - 14 Years Ago
Old Y Block (2/7/2011)
William; Try getting a title under a"home made" vehicle. Some states allow it. Check with your local license bureau for the particulars, they can tell you, and if you can you will get a title and a new VIN.



Old Yblock



Kerrville, Texas




While it may be easy in Texas, I would not recommend this. In a lot of states, a self constructed vehicle means you have to meet all current emissions and other rules.
By ejstith - 14 Years Ago
Where in FL are you William?
By Frankenstein57 - 14 Years Ago
I bought a 58 from Michigan and a 57 from Indiana, both had titles.I transferred both over to Wisconsin without a hitch. I did apply for and receive collector plates, which is a one time fee. I sent along a nice big check for the plates and all taxes at that time. I feared that current government attitudes would soon make it harder to get the collector plates, so I did it soon after purchase of the cars.My hunch was correct ,as now the car has to be bone stock. Pictures of all sides and engine compartment must accompany the application. Makes you wonder why the government is going broke huh?
By oldguy - 14 Years Ago
Mainely Title Co. in Maine (look them up on the internet) will issue a title for your car with a notarized bill of sale from the previous owner. Nice knowledgeable folks to do business with. The Maine title in your name should be accepted by Florida... Mainely will know just what to do to get your car titled in Florida, and will not lead you wrong. Wil not take long to get you a title once process is started.   If this is the route you decide on, go to another Fla. DMV office and state the process over on getting a FLA. title, presenting the Maine title.

P.S ... don't tick off DMV, been their, done that.... Did not help at all. Just cost me more $, time and grief.

bob

By Metal Ghost - 14 Years Ago
Apache....did you ever get this worked out?  I'm curious what the final fix was, or I may have simply missed that reply (though I did look through all the pages).

I know that I bought my car with a title (purchased from Missouri through a dealer, but it was a Colorado car), and while I still have a copy of it NYS took the original, and they won't issue a title in return, with everything already mentioned about transferable registration being true.