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By Moz - 14 Years Ago
g'day guys

im having trouble with my vacuum wipers they work but after  about 3-4 wipes the left one goes of the outside edge of the windsareen & they stick there i have to put my arm out the window & give them a push or if i take my foot of the throttle they will sometimes thump back into position really hard any ideas on what could be causing it thanks

By pintoplumber - 14 Years Ago
My first guess would be the splines are worn where the arm fits on the shaft that protrudes through the cowl.
By LON - 14 Years Ago
Moz,

Through them away . Go for electric wipers .I just bought a set from New Port Engineering in Washinton ,MO. (636 239-1698) .I called them ,gave them the order & credit card details and had them delivered to my front door in about a week .They do have a website ,but it is not set up to buy from ,if you live outside USA.

Lon

PS. Moz ,give Cusso Bill a call ,he may have some ???

By aussiebill - 14 Years Ago
Moz (2/4/2011)
g'day guys

im having trouble with my vacuum wipers they work but after  about 3-4 wipes the left one goes of the outside edge of the windsareen & they stick there i have to put my arm out the window & give them a push or if i take my foot of the throttle they will sometimes thump back into position really hard any ideas on what could be causing it thanks

Moz, you could try a new set of rubbers and also closer to home is castle auto electrics who make an electric wiper kit, also lon,s suggestion. Tongue

By Old Y Block - 14 Years Ago
Hi, If you think it could be the motor, go to ebay and search 1953 Buick wiper motor. I did and got 2 N.O.S. motors for my 55 for under $25 ea. Same motor as FoMoCo, only not near as much in demand. Put one on with only minor alterations, I think it was with the pivots on the arm. Has worked for five years, no problem. Electric wipers are darn good but are pretty expensive for some of us.

Old Y Block

Kerrville, Texas

By paul2748 - 14 Years Ago
Go to electric - I use the New Ports and like them (have on three cars).
By crenwelge - 14 Years Ago
I like electric wipers too, but I ran vacuum wipers for many years. If your fuel pump is working right, you have no vacuum leaks and the motor and linkage is in good shape, they really aren't that bad. They usually stall opposite of the park position when something is wrong.
By Moz - 14 Years Ago
thanks for the ideas guys maybe time to go electric with all the hills i have to go up & down everyday most of the time they dont work on a brighter note went to a hotrod show today on the way home i showed 3 scrubs & 1 harley how fast y-blocks are i left them standing still
By 55Birdman - 14 Years Ago
I remember one time my dad tied a string to the good wiper arm and when it went to the side and started to return it pulled the other wiper to wipe the windscreen. Worked well as I remember. Those were the days....
By Grizzly - 14 Years Ago
I'd been looking at a replacement for mine. Eventually I will update the fuel system with an electric pump and better fuel filter. The vacuume wipers don't work they're best anyway this would push them beyond useful. There are some "50's charm" items that don't charm me.

Do the newport wipers have intermittent? I can't make sense of their web site and Do the Castle wipers switch fit in the original position using the original knob? Twice the price but would prefer local and there's always freight to consider.

By paul2748 - 14 Years Ago
Grizzly (2/6/2011)
I'd been looking at a replacement for mine. EventuallyI will update the fuel system with an electric pump and better fuel filter. The vacuume wipers don't work they're best anyway this would push them beyond useful. There are some "50's charm" items that don't charm me.



Do the newport wipers have intermittent? I can't makesense of their web site and Do the Castle wipers switch fit in the original position using the original knob? Twice the price but would prefer local and there's always freight to consider.




Yes, the New Port wipers do have an intermittent switch. Plus, they have an adapter that lets you use the original knob. I have the knob adapter, but not the intermittent, on my 54 and 56 TBird..
By LON - 14 Years Ago
Grizzly ,

Give them a call. I think the guys name was Gavin ??? Just check the time difference ( I think 7 am Au = 4pm Independence MO ).The site is fine if you live in USA .I can't remember the price of the wipers ,but I know it was about half the price of Castle Electrics .Freight was $50.00 . Seem very helpful to deal with .

Lon

By 'GB'ird - 14 Years Ago
Do the newport wipers have intermittent? I can't make sense of their web site and Do the Castle wipers switch fit in the original position using the original knob? Twice the price but would prefer local and there's always freight to consider.

You can't get more intermittent than the good ol' vacuum onesSmile

Richard

By Grizzly - 14 Years Ago
This was Moz's post before I took over Cool

Richard in defence of the vacuum wipers they were the best intermittent wipers that I have ever used with some fiddling you could set them so that once the windscreen got wet enough they would make a few wipes then stall ready for next time the glass got wet enough.

Lon, you are right I will need to get some more info. I read the Newport site both as the intermittent switch fits and it doesn't. 55,56,57 all use a 55 dash in Australia. I can see that a bulky or long switch would not fit because of the speedo. Lon did you fit intermittent? The castle ones are $370 as opposed to $205. Castle mention intermittent at the top of the page at $220 extra but I don't know if this is for the cable ones. A intermittent switch is listed below at $260. Must be good stuff Wink

I use intermittent at least as much as the other two speeds although mostly it's just to clear the glass at the start of a trip.

Thanks for the responses. A wiper upgrade is on my list but a way off.

By LON - 14 Years Ago
Grizzly ,

I just bought the standard wipers. On, off & self parking . I did buy the extra long switch .Don't use the wipers much,even when it does rain ?? Rainex works like a charm on curved windshields ( windscreens).The "A" model roadster never had wipers ,always had plenty of "Rainex " .Only got caught twice in 5 years .Rained so hard we had to pull over .I knew I should not have  taken the roof off ??

Lon

By Moz - 14 Years Ago
thats ok grizzly im interested in the responces but yeah i looked up castle auto electrics that amount of money at the moment i'd rather spend on the customline more than the mainline mainly i wanted a quick fix if there was one so i dont get caught in peak hour traffic pouring rain & the wipers jam
By aussiebill - 14 Years Ago
Moz (2/8/2011)
thats ok grizzly im interested in the responces but yeah i looked up castle auto electrics that amount of money at the moment i'd rather spend on the customline more than the mainline mainly i wanted a quick fix if there was one so i dont get caught in peak hour traffic pouring rain & the wipers jam

Moz, as lon says you cant beat rainex!

By Moz - 14 Years Ago
actually thats just what im gonna do bill new blades & rainex are you still coming down for the street rod nationals
By Hoosier Hurricane - 14 Years Ago
Moz:

An old trick around here was to put a little brake fluid in a small container, put the vacuum hose to the wiper motor into the brake fluid, and with the switch to the ON position, manually sweep the blades back and forth a few times to suck some fluid into the wiper motor.  Sweep the blades to the extremes of their travel.  Put a towel or something under the motor, as fluid may come out the motor vent.  Leave the blades in about the halfway position until you drive the car again.  The thought is to let the brake fluid soften the seal on the paddle in the wiper motor, as well as soften any sticky grease in the housing.  Doesn't cost much to try it. 

By Grizzly - 14 Years Ago
I contacted both Castle and Newport with some basic question including info on intermittent price and issues fitting problems.

Newport

Hi Warren,

Thanks for your interest in our products. We have a quality kit for the

1955-56 Ford. The delay switch will fit in the stock location with the shaft extension. Delay switch is a 2'cube. Your car needs to be wired for

12 volts. This kit includes the motor, mounting bracket, wiring harness, delay switch and shaft extension. Price is $292.90. We usually mail to Australia, cost is $55-60.00 Mailing. We have these in stock and it can mail out right away if you like.

Thanks again, Linda @ New Port Engineering

 Castle

Hi Warren
Yes these are available with intermittent switching which all goes back in the original switch position.
Price on complete kit with intermittent is $570.00 plus postage.
Please email if you need more info or want to place an order.
Thanks  Con
 
Obviously Newport is half the price of Castle I prefer to deal locally but really.
 
By Moz - 14 Years Ago
thanks john i was thinking of trying that trick i did it on the customline but havent tryed it yet
By Hoosier Hurricane - 14 Years Ago
You're welcome Moz.  As an afterthought, brake fluid will dry up in time.  Maybe if it fixes the motor, you could use the same proceedure to get some light oil into the motor to keep the seal soft.
By PF Arcand - 14 Years Ago
Re wipers in a similar vane; the previous owner of my 57 car had problems with the wipers and it badly damaged the glass on the drivers side corner. While inquiring about replacing the windshield, a veteran auto glass installer told me that wear in the linkage (cables in this case) & wipers was likely the problem, & unless fixed, would likely damage the new glass. I've noticed that there appears to be wear in the wiper arm pivots. I'm not sure about the cable system. My experience with electrics has not been good either. They were failed when I bought the car & failed again, the 2nd time the motor burned out. I believe they were from a company called Vintique. I'm back to vacuum wipers now with a resealed motor. With the pump assist they work o.k.. However, most people with collector cars in this area of British Columbia, usually avoid driving them in very wet conditions.
By aussiebill - 14 Years Ago
Yes, will be going to nats, hopefully i,m registering my just finished blown A coupe next week and depending on how it goes in the time up to then i,ll be in it. We in this state are undergoing registration and engineering changes, will be official end of month before current gov is thrown out of power but will not change the new system. Cops will be able to view engineering report and pictures of car at time of rego in their car computer and any little changes etc you will be fined, defected etc. It stinks. also limiting engine sizes and no blowers on light cars like a models etc. Will stay in touch prior to coming.
By Moz - 14 Years Ago
ok so if i see a blown y-block in an a model i'll just hang by it till the owner shows up
By aussiebill - 14 Years Ago
Moz, you can call me on 0408211499 at nats to find me, but will check with you prior. regards bill.Tongue
By Moz - 14 Years Ago
no problems bill im looking forward to it

john great minds think alike i did the brake fluid yesterday boy that was fun note to self dont run the engine in the shed haha im surprised the fire brigade over the road didnt show up but afterwards i was thinking maybe i should put some light oil in there to keep it lubed i also changed the blades they felt like they were draging when i moved them by hand so i will see how it goes next time it rains

By ejstith - 14 Years Ago
'GB'ird (2/7/2011)
Do the newport wipers have intermittent? I can't makesense of their web site and Do the Castle wipers switch fit in the original position using the original knob? Twice the price but would prefer local and there's always freight to consider.




You can't get more intermittent than the good ol' vacuum onesSmile



Richard




Yeah, ya can Richard. On mine, the left one goes up 1/2 way when I turn them on. When I turn them off it goes back down. Took the vacuum fuel pump off & plumed it directly into the manifold, same results.... lol !!! One day I'll get electrics, until then stay out of the rain when possible, use Rain-X, & twist the knob on & off !!
By DANIEL TINDER - 14 Years Ago
Hoosier Hurricane (2/9/2011)

Leave the blades in about the halfway position until you drive the car again. The thought is to let the brake fluid soften the seal on the paddle in the wiper motor, as well as soften any sticky grease in the housing.



John,

First time I've heard that one. I did the castor oil/brake fluid routine years ago, but fix didn't last very long. Installed a rebuilt motor which worked well, but after a few years same trouble (balky, erratic wipers). Rebuilt THAT motor myself. Used silicon distributor grease in the hope it wouldn't dry out. Worked like new for a few years, but having grief again now. Will install another pro-rebuild soon I had put aside (current motor was sort of cobbled together as NOS parts to replace damaged gaskets, etc. now virtually unobtainable), but am really puzzled about what causes the odd symptoms when motors fail? Why do the arms overreach/slap? Why is the action erratic, but in a regular pattern? Isn't one wiper cycle equivalent to one motor cycle? It seems like every 3 wipes or so, the blades slap. Just curious.
By Moz - 14 Years Ago
id just like to say thanks to you guys ive now used them twice in the rain & they work great john i put some 3in1 oil in i didnt want to put anything in to heavy also thought of compressor oil both are thin 3in 1 seems ok still got to get some rainex though.
By Grizzly - 14 Years Ago
Moz, you tight wad. I bought the Castle wipers because the are Australian. I've got the old setup out but need to install the new. Pricey but local.

Cheers

Warren

By Moz - 14 Years Ago
lol no tight wad  just would rather spend money on the customline been looking at it for 11 years come the month of may also my rx3 needs a little love & rotory parts are dearer than y-block
By Grizzly - 14 Years Ago
Moz, just teasing
By Moz - 14 Years Ago
hahaha i knew you were i will put electric ones on the customline though
By Grizzly - 14 Years Ago
Moz,

I've had a few problems with installing the castle electric wipers. The instructions are Sh?t & the shaft of the switch is a larger diameter than the original. So if you want to use the standard attaching nut and knob they need to be modified (drilled out). w00t

I have limited patience for being upside down under the dash so progress is slow. I dropped the motor several times over the weekend. I had my head under it at the time. I'm sort of glad that the Previous Owner did a horrid job of wiring the radio in. It gives several opportunities for the motor to get caught up before hitting me in the head.

The wiper motor and gearbox looks solid and well made the intermittent switch is variable which I like. The switch is in and looks the same as it always did.

Cheers

Warren     

By Moz - 14 Years Ago
thanks for the heads up warren bit of a pity after unloading that amount of cash that its not a straight fit also lucky you dont have a wiper motor imprint on your forehead
By aussiebill - 14 Years Ago
Grizzly (3/20/2011)
Moz,

I've had a few problems with installing the castle electric wipers. The instructions are Sh?t & the shaft of the switch is a larger diameter than the original. So if you want to use the standard attaching nut and knob they need to be modified (drilled out). w00t

I have limited patience for being upside down under the dash so progress is slow. I dropped the motor several times over the weekend. I had my head under it at the time. I'm sort of glad that the Previous Owner did a horrid job of wiring the radio in. It gives several opportunities for the motor to get caught up before hitting me in the head.

The wiper motor and gearbox looks solid and well made the intermittent switch is variable which I like. The switch is in and looks the same as it always did.

Cheers

Warren     

Warren, glad you tried castle,s motor, forget cost factor as at least any warranty problems can be addressed here compared to sending US one back for any warranty if necessary. i dont use cost as main buying point of anything, allways looking at practibility ,warranty and then cost. Glad for the feedback on installation as i refer my customers to them since i stopped making elect wiper kits.Smile

By Moz - 14 Years Ago
hey bill did the coupe pass registration & i forgot to give you my mobile # 0419 568 326