funny noise from my rear end...


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By texasmark1 - 14 Years Ago
during turns, low speed but not from a standing start like from a stop light, I get a sound from the rear of the car (57 Fairlane) like the rear tire scraping against the fender lip, but there is no scraping, cuts or abrasions on the tires...

suspect I have a rear end concern here...

anybody with suggestions/comments/"... yeah, mine did that too until I..." ??

thanks,Mark

By GREENBIRD56 - 14 Years Ago
Axle bearing? - Brake drum rubbing.
By sundance241 - 14 Years Ago
Texas ,   If you find out what causes the noise  from the rear,   let me know , i have the same problem,,,   But mine only acures when i make a hard right hand turn...!!    Sam                                                               Florida , west coast
By texasmark1 - 14 Years Ago
eek!

now I have the pressure of expectations!

By MoonShadow - 14 Years Ago
Take the drums off and look for brake parts where they don't belong. Sometimes they will come off or break and drag on the hub. While your in there you can check for oil leakage around the seal. If nothing is floating in the hub an oil leak may indicate a bearing problem. Chuck in NH
By Hoosier Hurricane - 14 Years Ago
The brake backing plate has a flange around the perimeter.  Many drums have a groove that fits over the flange, I assume to keep pieces of dirt out.  I have seen rust lumps built up in the drum groove to the point it touches the flange.
By Pete 55Tbird - 14 Years Ago
Mark, After you check everything else here is a very low probability thing it could be. If your 9 inch was replaced by a Trac lock or an Equa lock at some time these have a tendancy to crack and split the hub that carries the clutches. Only if you have a TL or EL rear end. Pete
By LON - 14 Years Ago
Sundance ,

I had the same problem as you  with '57 Thunderbird , only when I turned right ??? Replaced ,U -bolts,shackle rubbers,shocks,etc,etc. Still had noise ???Turned out I had lost a tooth on a sun gear in the diff .Noise got real bad when I lost a second tooth .Removed  diff and found the problem . I was lucky to find a Diff Shop about 2 miles away .$1,000 later ,one fully rebuilt diff.Bearings,4 pinion hemisphere ,new crown & pinion ,seals and pinion housing .Had a little trouble trying to find a pinion seal as mine was leather ?? .Guy said it must have been very early '57 as he had only seen 2 sizes in pinoin seals ,large & small .

Lon

By texasmark1 - 14 Years Ago
UPDATE:

pulled the rear wheels and brake drums off this afternoon;

found, on both sides, a not-completly-tightened nut (one of four) that secure the wheel bearing retainers; the one on the pass side (where I believe my noise comes from) showed signs of a small leak; the brake backing plate was slightly greasy and the edge of the drum was also a bit greasy... so, I tightened up both the loose nuts and checked the others for tightness...

found no broken or loose parts as was suggested might be present...

if this stops my "noise", it will be one of the easiest "fixes" so far... but I'm not holding my breath!

I suppose the axle bearings and/or seals may need to be replaced.

if so, do I really need the tool shown in my shop manual to pull the axles out?  it looks like something I'd describe as a "sliding hammer"

By Vic Correnti - 14 Years Ago
Mark,

In the old days I bolted a length of heavy chain to a wheel stud and give it some slack and give it a quick pull and have got them loose.

By The Master Cylinder - 14 Years Ago
May I suggest that you cut down on the raw veggies and beans, I'm sure that will cut down on the strange noise from your rear end. As to why you only get this noise, I have no clue...w00tw00t



OK, I admit, I'm bored today, not much to do. Beach is overcast and windy. Just adjusted the valves on my KTM 504, that's about it...
By Don Woodruff - 14 Years Ago
One other possibility: the retaining ring that holds the outer axel bearing in place ( the one shrunk on the axle itself) may have loosened allowing the axle to shift in the outer bearing.
By texasmark1 - 14 Years Ago
forgot to mention that I have no play or looseness when I try to shake/wiggle the ends of the axles... seems like there would be some play if I had a bad bearing or seal...??
By LON - 14 Years Ago
Texas ,

I use the brake drum as a puller .Put the drum on backwards .Add  wheel nuts to the studs ,about 3  or 4 threads . This will give you a bit of slack between the nuts and the brake drum .Give the drum a couple of sharp pulls and most times the  axles  will come out .Once I had to chain up one side of  rear end to a tree ,and use an endless chain hooked up to a fence post  on the other axle to pull it out .When that SOB finally let go ,it you have broken both of your legs if you were in the way .That axle came out at what seemed like a 100mph ???

Lon