Dual-quad manifold


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By kidcourier - 13 Years Ago
 After looking at different brands of dualquad manifolds(Edelbrock,Edmonds,Ford,etc.) is there any one that out performs the others as far as hp/tq? Can you run more modern carbs on it besides "teapots" such as Hollys or Edelbrocks or would you have to make a adapter to fit the patterns? KID
By Ted - 13 Years Ago

While there is an intensive dual quad manifold dyno test being planned, it’s still a ways off.  Due to most of the available dual quad intakes being designed for either Teapots or WCFB or Rochester carbs, using adapters will in many instances permit some of the more modern carbs to be fitted to those intakes.  Both Holleys and Edelbrock carbs have been successfully used on some of the dual quad manifolds out there.  The Edelbrock 2X4 intakes would appear to be more suited to using newer model carbs due to the carb spacing on those intakes being further apart than some of the other dual quad intakes out there.

 

Here are some pics.

  

 

By Rono - 13 Years Ago
I'm running dual Edlebrock #1404's (mechanical choke) on an Edlebrock dual quad (#257) intake using TransDapt adapter plates that were port matched to the intake. She runs well.Rono
By kidcourier - 13 Years Ago
  Thanks Ted and Rono for the great pictures,nothing like a visual aid and your answers. A couple more questions: #1- Edelbrock #254 Early/small ports and #257 later/large ports? #2-Does the manifold "Brand" dictate carb direction-sideways or inline? #3-Looking at the carb base,why does one have 4-holes straight down and the other have 2 that are connected and 2 straight down?Any advantages to these designs? Hope I didn't confuse anyone on this description(LOL) ,really looking forward to the dualquad comparison and taking the best carbs/manifold against John's dual plane/carb combo for both street/strip comparison.Again,thank you for the info it's a learning process for me! KID
By Ted - 13 Years Ago
kidcourier (2/15/2012)
  ......A couple more questions: #1- Edelbrock #254 Early/small ports and #257 later/large ports?

Yes.  And the #255 has intermediate sized ports.

#2-Does the manifold "Brand" dictate carb direction-sideways or inline? #3-Looking at the carb base,why does one have 4-holes straight down and the other have 2 that are connected and 2 straight down?Any advantages to these designs? Hope I didn't confuse anyone on this description(LOL) ,really looking forward to the dualquad comparison and taking the best carbs/manifold against John's dual plane/carb combo for both street/strip comparison.Again,thank you for the info it's a learning process for me! KID
I’m not aware of any cast Y-Block dual quad manifolds that were originally designed to turn the carbs sideways.  All the above pictured intakes use some form of carb adapter to allow the use of later model carbs and orientate the carbs as desired.  The Ford ECG-D 2X4 manifolds for the YBlocks allowed the carbs to face forward on the Ford cars but on the Thunderbirds, the carbs faced rearward using the same intake.  Where the carbs faced rearward, a bellcrank was used in which to get the accelerator linkage working correctly.

As far as the holes at the carb base in the manifolds, that’s just the various manufacturers doing what they thought was either best for performance or simplest to cast.  The dual quad intakes cast for Ford would appear to have a preference for the opposing corner throttle holes to be linked.  This was at least the case up until the 427 HiRisers came to the forefront at which point Ford went parallel with the carb holes at the flange.  Most aftermarket intakes had their shared holes running parallel on the left and right sides of the intake.  Here are a pics of some YBlock 2X4 intakes.

 

   

By Dennis K. - 13 Years Ago
Re 427 High Riser 8V intake manifolds.  I've seen a few "XE" HR 8V intakes with the figure 8 bore.  However, the C4AE - D and F's I've seen all have the square four bore pattern. 

I'll ask around, maybe someone may remember the original purpose of the figure 8 bore.

Regards,

Dennis

  

By kidcourier - 13 Years Ago
    Thanks Ted, and great pictures!Glad someone could understand my question on the intake holes. I'm anxiously waiting on your dual quad manifold comparisons,once you find the best one will you be preforming a carbs test on it(Holley,Edelbrock,etc.)and perhaps a test on combos for street--street/strip---race applications? I know this is a lot of work and testing time but all the information you've given us allows those of us that are new to the"Y-Block"motor a better idea of their proformance potential and things that actually work!And To all that participate on this forum with all the tips,info,and experiences,a hearty Thank You! KID