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By MoonShadow - 13 Years Ago
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I have the Benedtson AOD adapter and it uses the Hytachi gear reduction starter. This is the same starter found with adapters for sbc and Fords. The problem is when I store the car over winter the starters rust up badly inside. Enough that they will not turn. Last year I had the starter taken apart, cleaned then new bearings and brushes installed. This year its frozen solid again and too rusted to be worth rebuilding. A local circle track racer said he had them on his car and had to take them off each winter and store them in the house to prevent problems. This guy is a long time rebuilder of starters. Anyone else have this problem? With the adapter I'm using stock starters are not an option. Chuck
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By Carson - 13 Years Ago
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I have had no problema w/ this one http://www.autoelec.com/html/y_block_ford_gear_reduction_st.html
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By MoonShadow - 13 Years Ago
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The AOD adapter is machined to bolt on the Hytachi starter. The other one won't fit. Thats part of the problem. I can buy replacements but just wanted to know if anyone else had this problem. Chuck
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By MarkMontereyBay - 13 Years Ago
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I have the AutoElectric starter on the 57 Bird. No problems either. I am in California and rust usually isn't an issue here. I have a PowerMaster unit on a 65 Galaxie and a 66 F100( sold it 2 weeks ago), both FE's, that have given many years of trouble free starts.
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By pegleg - 13 Years Ago
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Chuck, you need drier storage! pull the battery and the starter and put 'em in the house.
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By MoonShadow - 13 Years Ago
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Thats what the race car dude said. I've always pulled the battery and since my new trailer has a decent winch I guess I'll just have to pull the starter too. I just find it a little hard to believe that the Hitachi starters have a problem like that. I also plan to carry a spare from now on. I've searched for other applications for this starter but there dosen't appear to be any. Its some sort of amalgamation that is only sold with the sbc of Ford adapters. Can't find the starter by itself. Chuck
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By pegleg - 13 Years Ago
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Talk to me at EXPO, have another serious idea.
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By PF Arcand - 13 Years Ago
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Has Benedtson been made aware of this problem? If not, I suggest writing to them soon. I'm sure they would like to avoid this type of bad publicity for their product. I don't understand how that much moisture could get into a starter, other than it possibly affecting the drive end only. Is it likely that it's a condensation problem?
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By MoonShadow - 13 Years Ago
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My first thought was condensation but the inside of the starter looks pretty bad. I can't see how splash up could get one that wet. Chuck
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By bird55 - 13 Years Ago
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Chuck, I have the same setup on my bird and have had no issues to date. Knock on wood.
Good luck contacting Bendstens He has been hard to talk to on the phone and poor at follow up with me on other issues. Just my 2 cents.
However if you study the assembly it's easy to see how it might be troublesome since tolorences are tight and such. Reminds me of a Lionel train I had as a kid!
I agree you should get drier storage or start greasing it down. how about you figure out a grease zerk or something somehow? I'd listen.
dang, I miss the sound of my old 6 volt FORD starter. The yblock Chorus. 
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By MoonShadow - 13 Years Ago
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I know what you mean about hard to contact/talk to. Actually the starters are a production item so he really isn't responsible for them. Close tolerance may be the problem. I soaked the gear driven area with WD40 and worked the gear with a pair of channel locks for a good 30min before it would turn and extend. The other bearings are also frozen but I don't know enough about this type of starter to seperate the case. The grease zerk might be interesting or drilling a couple holes to the internal bearing area that I can flood with solvent prior to storage. Chuck
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By LordMrFord - 13 Years Ago
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MoonShadow (8/23/2012)
Anyone else have this problem?
I have same problem. I have been rebuild the starter few times for now and I think that my problem is the hole in the hood where rain comes in and drain on the valley cover to adapter plate and there water go just trough the starter. It is not the bad bearings because I changed them twice with different type bearings.
All that mud and scrap in the starter tells that the rain water is to blame.
Maybe I must make some sewer system at the adapter plate what redirects the water. (I think L-88 hood scoop or something don't look nice with '59)
Damn Srub and Jap parts!
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By MoonShadow - 13 Years Ago
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Good possibility I have a louvered hood that lets a lot of rain pour through. I drove the car a couple of rainey days before I put it in the trailer. Could be the problem. Chuck
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By Granny'56 - 13 Years Ago
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Lazy fix...Take an old fashioned filament light bulb usually 25 + watts and put it just under the starter, plug it in and let it heat (gently) the starter, keeping condensation from forming. (you want it under the starter because hot air coming off the bulb rises.) Depending on your environment you might need a more powerful light. I have used up to 100 watts. You want the item to be protected to be a couple of degrees warmer than the environment. It's not a bad idea to put a warming light under the pan to keep water from condensing in the crank case and migrating into the oil. I guess a block heather like they use in Minnesota and other cold places might be good as well.
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