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By TcLabare - 13 Years Ago
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I have a 56 T-Bird, 312, and I have the harmonic balancer removed. The area where the seal rides, has grove worn from the seal, and I would like to repair it. Does anyone sell a bushing that rides under the seal, or has anyone repaired this problem? Thanks, Barry
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By PWH42 - 13 Years Ago
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Almost any of the major parts stores sell repair sleeves for the balancer seal surface.I know for sure NAPA has them.
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By Glen Henderson - 13 Years Ago
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As Paul stated NAPA has them listed as do many online sites. A word of caution though, make sure to dress the area of the damper that the sleeve covers. They are very thin and can be deformed when they are pressed on if the damper is not clean and smooth.
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By TcLabare - 13 Years Ago
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Thanks for the quick response. I bought one today, but the sleeve is almost too short to cover the grove. I'm still looking for a longer one, with the same inside diameter, this one is .920 long, I need it to be about 1.250 or near there. Thanks again, Barry
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By Hoosier Hurricane - 13 Years Ago
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Check your local bearing supply house. I think their sleeves are a bit longer than the parts house sleeve, which is actually made for a small block Ford which is the same diameter as the Y.
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By TcLabare - 13 Years Ago
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That same afternoon I went to the local bearing supplier and they couldn't help with a longer one. I've got a machinist buddy that is going to trim (lathe) my balancer shaft about 1/2 inch on the outside of the shaft, so the sleeve will ride down a little more. That should make the sleeve cover the groove and not change the shafts distance to the timing gear. Too bad no one makes the sleeve, but we must do what we have to do, on these cars.  Thanks, Barry 56 T-Bird, 312 Texas City, Texas
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By TcLabare - 13 Years Ago
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Well today I got my 312 running. I got the harmonic balancer back from the machine shop, they trimmed the HB shaft, and installed the sleeve without problems. The groove is covered and does not leak. Now I'm looking for 16 new rocker arms, and 2 new shafts, as mine have wear and some don't adjust enough. Does anyone sell them at a better price than on ebay, the local parts suppliers are higher. Also, what's with the "rocker arm pressurized modifiction" from the Y-Block guy on You Tube? I was wanting a little feedback from somebody that has done it. This car is not driven very much, only about 500 miles a year, if that much. Thanks for all the advice, Barry
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By bird55 - 13 Years Ago
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Barry, since you live in Texas, you might check with Don Hyde-FordCraft. Not an online guy, here's his #, 972--423-4636. He can get you about anything you need and is very knowledgeable about Birds.
I am surprised you couldn't find the proper sleeve, I got mine for the same issue at O'Reilly's Auto Parts. Also surprised you machined the collar and got it to work! But hey I learned something new. Welcome to the forum.
Pressurizing the rockers is one way to go. All mine work fine without that treatment. you can read up on here with a search about the various methods and issues for doing that.
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By Ted - 13 Years Ago
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TcLabare (11/19/2012)
.... I bought one today, but the sleeve is almost too short to cover the grove. I'm still looking for a longer one, with the same inside diameter, this one is .920 long, I need it to be about 1.250 or near there. Thanks again, Barry The Micro-Sleeve part #MS229-1 is listed for the 292/312 Fords but I see where it also fits some other applications. What brand sleeve were you dealing with?
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By TcLabare - 13 Years Ago
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The brand was Fel-Pro. I looked at several suppliers and all the sleeves were really made for a small block Ford, they have the same diameter crankshaft, so they will fit a y-block. The only problem with mine, the sleeve was about 1/4 inch short, and did not cover the groove worn by the timing cover seal. I was owner/manager of an auto parts store for 14 years, and I am usually pretty good at finding parts, the y-block is getting harder to find stuff as time goes by. I bought this T-Bird in 1976, and it was a lot cheaper and more easy to find parts. I tried to upload a picture of the repaired shaft, but it says the space has been exceeded. Oh well. Thanks for all the help, Barry
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By Ted - 13 Years Ago
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TcLabare (12/3/2012)
...... I tried to upload a picture of the repaired shaft, but it says the space has been exceeded. Oh well. ... If you’ll resize the picture before inserting it, the site will have less difficulty with it. While the site can resize larger pictures to a degree, if they are too large it overwhelms the software. 500 wide or 500 tall is the maximum sizes the site will display so that’s a good place to start when resizing the pictures.
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By lyonroad - 13 Years Ago
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Does anyone know where one could purchase a Micro-Sleeve part #MS229-1?
Thanks, Mark
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By TcLabare - 13 Years Ago
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 This is the repaired harmonic balancer shaft, notice the end cut down, so the sleeve will travel down more on the shaft. Thanks for the picture size hint. Barry
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By lyonroad - 12 Years Ago
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Ordered a pair of Micro-Sleeve MS229-1 balancer repair sleeves from Silver Seal Products in Trenton MI. They are the right length for the Y block balancer. The second one is in case the first one gets accidentally mangled. Price on line was $4.99 reduced from $7.14 but when they arrived the price I paid was $2.99 each. I guess they felt sorry for me because shipping to the west coast was $17.52. I should have ordered 10.
Should I be using some sort of adhesive like the green lock tite or should I lubricate the sleeve before I press it on. I googled this and one person said to fill in the groove on the balancer with JB Weld and sand it smooth before installation. Any one have experience with this? Thanks
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By Slick111 - 12 Years Ago
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I machined mine down just 100 thousands and took care of the leaking front seal just enough to move seal lip off the old grove area did have to re-space my top water pump pulley to keep the belt totaly true in the grove some thing to watch out for.
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By Ted - 12 Years Ago
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lyonroad (1/22/2013)
.... Should I be using some sort of adhesive like the green lock tite or should I lubricate the sleeve before I press it on. I googled this and one person said to fill in the groove on the balancer with JB Weld and sand it smooth before installation. Any one have experience with this? ThanksThe green Loctite would be my choice. In lieu of Loctite, then coating the worn area with Copper Coat prior to pressing the sleeve in place would be another option. Any kind of sealer would likely suffice though as long as the sleeve is not installed dry.
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By lyonroad - 12 Years Ago
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Thanks Ted, I installed the sleeve a few weeks ago and used the green locktite. Went well except that an extra 32nd or so on the sleeve length would have been nice.
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