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By alanfreeman - 13 Years Ago
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I would like to keep the engine in my '54 Mercury looking original although it is a 292. I want to get rid of the teapot setup and go with a "B" manifold so I can use a modern Holly carb. Has anyone ever modified the teapot air cleaner to fit on the later Holly 4 bbl carb? I recall seeing a '56 at a show years ago and the owner told me he had the later carb but the engine had the original air cleaner on it. He had made it fit somehow. Thanks, Alan S. Freeman
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By Hoosier Hurricane - 13 Years Ago
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If you have a 4 barrel teapot, it will fit the later carb if the carbs both have 5 1/8" flanges for the air filter.
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By alanfreeman - 13 Years Ago
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Thanks. I will try it as it sounds like it will fit. Alan
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By oldcarmark - 13 Years Ago
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I have the original A/C on mine with a 390 Holley.Had to bend the flange a little on the bottom of the housing.I also converted it to dry element.
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By kevink1955 - 13 Years Ago
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I did the same thing on mine, 390 Holly trimed a small flange of the bottom and it fits like it was made for it. Please tell me how you did the dry element conversion, would like to do mine
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By oldcarmark - 13 Years Ago
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I got another air cleaner in less than great condition.All you would really need is a top of the oil bath filter if you can find just that part.I removed everything from the top so that all that was used was the actual lid.I used the tray that held the oil which the dry element sits in and creates a seal on the bottom.I have a filter element that I used.I will post the part # next post.I used a piece of 3/4 inch round foam shaped into a donut on top of the element to get a good seal between the lid and the element. Much cleaner to work with than the original oil bath cleaner.
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By rgrove - 13 Years Ago
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kevink1955 (12/21/2012)
I did the same thing on mine, 390 Holly trimed a small flange of the bottom and it fits like it was made for it.
Please tell me how you did the dry element conversion, would like to do mine
I converted my oil bath to a dry element in a really simple manner. I posted info/pics a while ago, if tou do a search you should be able to find it. If not let me know and ill dee if i can dig up some pics.
Ron
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By rgrove - 13 Years Ago
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Found the link, about half way down in this thread. I think it was an 8" or 9" air filter, not 6" as i stated earlier in the thread. Its a standard moroso filter from summit/jegs...
Hope this helps
http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/Topic30418-3-1.aspx#bm30587
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By raybaker1 - 12 Years Ago
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I am wanting to replace my Teapot carbureator on my 1955 Ford Crown Victoria. Would like to use the Holley 390 carbureator. However after reading up on the Holley it mentions a kick down on the carb for the transmission. I don't think my Fordomatic transmission has a kick down. So should I purchase a carb without a kick-down. Please help. Ray
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By PF Arcand - 12 Years Ago
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I believe your Fordomatic has a kickdown, but I'll let someone else get into the details. However, does your Crown Victoria appear to be an original 4 Bbl (teapot) dual exhaust car originally? If so, it may have been a 272 "power pack" engine car, with higher compression heads also... My point is, that if so, and if the car is fairly original body wise and so on..don't dispose of the parts you remove!. To collectors, the car is worth far more relatively stock, than if substantially modified..
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By oldcarmark - 12 Years Ago
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The 390 will work fine.The kickdown on yours is part of the throttle linkage on the firewall.The "no kickdown"on the carb is where it may be used on a newer car where the kickdown is part of the carburetor.I have the 390 on mine.You will need to replace the distributor.Keep your original parts in case you want to switch back to sell the car.Once you do the carb and dist. swap you wont want to change it back.
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By alanfreeman - 12 Years Ago
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I received the new Holley 465 CFM 4 BBL carburetor today and I tried the original Mercury oval "Teapot" air cleaner on it. It looks like it won't fit without some modification. The "Teapot" air cleaner has a flange or lip which extends about 1/2" below the top surface of the throttle body when the cleaner is installed on an original carburetor. This lip hits on the Holley 465 keeping the cleaner from seating around the circular edge. It looks like I will have to trim off this lip to get the cleaner to fit on the new carburetor. I hate to cut up the original cleaner but it looks like there is no other way to use .t on the Holley 465. Alan S. Freeman
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By Talkwrench - 12 Years Ago
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Yup thats what you do...
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By DryLakesRacer - 12 Years Ago
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Alan. When I get home I'll send you some pictures of what I did to keep the original look. I didn't use a 7-1/8" top carb but adapted it to a 5" early 4-barrel. I used 2 adapters on top of each other then the dry air filter. I did buy a stock oil bath off e-bay to cut up and saved the original one and teapot Holley. Just looking under the hood you can't tell I'm not stock. A 10" air cleaner/filter can be easily hidden under a stock housing. Eastwoods "argent" paint looks like stock also...
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By JeffB54 - 12 Years Ago
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alanfreeman (12/20/2012)
I would like to keep the engine in my '54 Mercury looking original although it is a 292. I want to get rid of the teapot setup and go with a "B" manifold so I can use a modern Holly carb. Has anyone ever modified the teapot air cleaner to fit on the later Holly 4 bbl carb? I recall seeing a '56 at a show years ago and the owner told me he had the later carb but the engine had the original air cleaner on it. He had made it fit somehow. Thanks, Alan S. Freeman Alan,contact rustyfords on the 1954ford.com site via pm he did a right up on how to,He has an Edelbrock 1406 under his '54 Filter.
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By alanfreeman - 12 Years Ago
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It took a little trimming, cutting and fitting of the lower lip of the original Mercury oval air cleaner but it now fits perfectly on the Holley 465. With the original air cleaner installed, only I know that a "flaming teapot" does not lurk below! Alan S. Freeman
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By oldcarmark - 12 Years Ago
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So how does it run with the new carb?Did you install the choke stove in the exhaust manifold yet?
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By alanfreeman - 12 Years Ago
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So how does it run with the new carb?Did you install the choke stove in the exhaust manifold yet?
I'm still working on cleaning up the "B" manifold and gathering up all of the necessary parts to put it back together. On the choke stove, I decided to run the line to the intake manifold center heat riser instead of drilling the exhaust manifold. I would think that there is enough heat in there to open up the choke. If not, I will drill the exhaust manifold and run the line down there. I am using a 1/2" phenolic carb spacer as a heat block, just as you suggested. Thanks, Alan
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