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By Daddys_Barn - 12 Years Ago
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Hi all
I am looking for a source of info on the Ford Industrial Y-Block. I was told this is my best possible source.
Any info and or leads, will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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By LordMrFord - 12 Years Ago
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I just ripped off Tero's '55(if I remember right) 272 Industrial engine.It looks quite same as normal Y, but there was sign at driver side of engine what tells its an industrial engine.
There was also water draining plug with wing nut at other side.
Cam was a crossdrilled only and some super-mild like originals are.
I have a photo somewhere of that sign if that would help any.
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By LordMrFord - 12 Years Ago
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Here is some pic what shows the place of the sign.
Block is industrial stuff, but others is something else.
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By Daddys_Barn - 12 Years Ago
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Thanks Suomi
Mine has a plate on the side also. I wrote it all down some time ago. I can't find it right now, and my motor is buried in snow at this point..
I'm wondering if they had heavy duty cranks, and maybe sodium valves etc. It does have G heads, with a 0ne Barrel Carb. A temp shutoff safety switch, a mechanical Governor. Looks like it might make a good truck motor. I really want to find statictics or specs on the industrial engines.
Thanks Bernie
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By Ted - 12 Years Ago
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Daddys_Barn (2/26/2013)
I'm wondering if they had heavy duty cranks, and maybe sodium valves etc. It does have G heads, with a 0ne Barrel Carb. A temp shutoff safety switch, a mechanical Governor. Looks like it might make a good truck motor. I really want to find statictics or specs on the industrial engines.
Thanks Bernie
Take a closer look at that carb and see if it attaches to the intake manifold with three bolts. If it does, then it’s likely a Holley 94 two barrel.
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By Y block Billy - 12 Years Ago
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If it has the 3 bolt caarb it more than likely does not have a steel crank whereas that would be an earlier industrial engine, C1TE blocks had steel cranks and some C2AE.
I picked up an industrial block and it had 3 lines between distributor and carb, holly 4 Barrell. The trucks had 2 lines, one for advance and the other to regulate the rpm's to normally about 3800. this 3rd line on the setup I got must be some sort of governer to maintain a certain load or something. Someday I will set it up on a test motor to see what it does. the motor also had the C1TE rods in it and the forged pistons.
Other than that, I have found them in an old well drilling rig and my brother used to use a forklift at a place he worked which came factory with a Y block.
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By Y block Billy - 12 Years Ago
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One other note is the fact that some of the 4 cylinder ford tractor motors from the late 50s and 60's and maybe into up into the 90's with the 4 cylinders share the same lifters as a Y along with same bore and pistons as a 272 I believe, not sure of the rods.
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By marvh - 12 Years Ago
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Could that single barrel carburetor be for propane. If so it may have had former life in a forklift.
Yblock Billy the 53 Jubilee (NAA models) Ford tractors used the same lifters as the yblocks
marv
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By John Mummert - 12 Years Ago
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Someone sent me a picture of an Onan generator with a Y-Block. It looked like a 1-bbl carb and governor.The mid 50's industrial short blocks didn't appear to have any special parts.
I have used them for car builds.
Heads might have had sodium filled exhaust valves. Not sure what year they were introduced. The oldest heads I've seen with sodium valves were 1959. They were common in -471 and C1TE heads.
If it has ECR heads it is HD truck or industrial. I've never seen a set of these heads in person to see if they had sodium valves.
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By Hoosier Hurricane - 12 Years Ago
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Those G heads on it would not have had sodium valves from the factory, but that's not to say someone didn't put them in them. If they are sodium filled, they will have 7/16" valve stems instead of the regular 11/32".
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By Ted - 12 Years Ago
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John Mummert (2/28/2013)
....Heads might have had sodium filled exhaust valves. Not sure what year they were introduced. The oldest heads I've seen with sodium valves were 1959. They were common in -471 and C1TE heads.
If it has ECR heads it is HD truck or industrial. I've never seen a set of these heads in person to see if they had sodium valves.
John. The oldest heads I currently have with the sodium exhaust valves are pairs of ECR-A’s and ECR-C’s. Based on the date codes, they are 1955/1956 vintage.
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By Hoosier Hurricane - 12 Years Ago
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Ted:
I didn't mean to say that '57 heads couldn't have come with sodium valves, I meant to say that they weren't put in G heads, but in industrial casting numbered heads. Incidentally, the sodium version of the 471 heads had B9TE casting numbers.
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By Ted - 12 Years Ago
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John (Hoosier). No problem. I was answering John (Mummert) in that the oldest sodium exhaust valves he had seen in Y heads was for the ’59 models. I have had cylinder heads with sodium exhaust valves going back to at least to 1955 for the Y engines just as a matter of general information.
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By Y block Billy - 12 Years Ago
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I have a pair of ECR-D I think with the sodium valves and these heads have the smallest combustion chamber I have ever seen, almost no step from head surface to chamber. Do you know what the combustion chamber size is on your ECR heads Ted?
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By John Mummert - 12 Years Ago
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Heres a picture of what appears to be a 1 bbl carb on a Y-Block Onan generator. Look as like an adapter on a 57 and later 2 bbl manifold
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By Ted - 12 Years Ago
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In reference to sodium filled exhaust valves in the truck heads, I’ve come across an earlier model Y head with sodium filled valves than what’s posted above. This one is 1954 vintage with EBZ-L casting numbers.
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