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By Danny - 12 Years Ago
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I want to install a later model yblock distributor with a Pertronix III conversion in my 1956 292 Ford.   It seems that the Cardone 30-2808 distributor is out of stock just about everywhere I looked, even at Cardone. Pictured above are 2 distributors. The top one is a C3TF-12127 which is a 1963-64 yblock distributor according to y-block.com and the other is a remanufactored Cardone 30-2808. I have the opportunity to buy the C3TF-12127. There appears to be a tapered metal shaft extension inserted into the bottom of the C3TF-12127 distributor about an inch below the gear. The Cardone 30-2808 does not have this extension. What is the purpose of the tapered metal extension and is it removable?
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By Dobie Gillis - 12 Years Ago
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Danny (8/19/2013)
I want to install a later model yblock distributor with a Pertronix III conversion in my 1956 292 Ford. It seems that the Cardone 30-2808 distributor is out of stock just about everywhere I looked, even at Cardone. Pictured above are 2 distributors. The top one is a C3TF-12127 which is a 1963-64 yblock distributor according to y-block.com and the other is a remanufactored Cardone 30-2808. I have the opportunity to buy the C3TF-12127. There appears to be a tapered metal shaft extension inserted into the bottom of the C3TF-12127 distributor about an inch below the gear. The Cardone 30-2808 does not have this extension. What is the purpose of the tapered metal extension and is it removable?
The one with the tapered shaft appears to be the early (1954) distributor with the "tang" drive (hard to tell for sure, I couldn't enlarge the pic enough without losing detail). The tang fits in a slot in the oil pump drive the same way a screwdriver fits in a slotted screw. For the '55 model year forward Ford used a hex drive system.
If it IS a tang drive you can use it with the appropriate oil pump, however it is a Loadamatic type unit with no centrifugal advance so you pretty much have to also use the matching carb with it.
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By Danny - 12 Years Ago
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Thanks for the reply. I do not think it is a 1954 distributor. It is clearly marked C3TF 12127 (in another picture) which makes it a 1963-65 ford yblock according to www.ford-y-block.com/distributors.htm and is not a loadomatic. In another pic it also has a curved vacuum advance arm. I only want to know if the tapered extension is removable.
 
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By charliemccraney - 12 Years Ago
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The stock distributor should not have that tapered extension, so if it is not modified, yes it will pull out.
It looks like you have pictures of two different "C3TF" distributors. The one that actually shows the engineering number has a big black plastic looking thing in it and doesn't have all of the blue overspray - it does have hints of blue but the pattern looks different. And the backgrounds are different.
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By aussiebill - 12 Years Ago
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charliemccraney (8/19/2013)
The stock distributor should not have that tapered extension, so if it is not modified, yes it will pull out.
It looks like you have pictures of two different "C3TF" distributors. The one that actually shows the engineering number has a big black plastic looking thing in it and doesn't have all of the blue overspray - it does have hints of blue but the pattern looks different. And the backgrounds are different.
Could it be a broken off peice of the oil pump drive?
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By oldcarmark - 12 Years Ago
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It looks like a broken piece of the oil pump drive.It should come out as its a hex fit in the Distributor shaft.I noticed there is an "O" ring on the housing as an oil seal.That should be removed as I don't think it will go into a Y-Block .Not used on the Y-Block distributors.
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By charliemccraney - 12 Years Ago
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The o-ring is used on the Motorcraft distributors. As long as it is placed correctly on an Autolite, it should be fine.
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By lyonroad - 12 Years Ago
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The instructions that came with my Cardone 30-2808 stated that the distributor may be equipped, with either an o ring or a paper gasket. Mine came with a paper gasket but I assumed that the o ring equipped version would have worked just as well.
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By slumlord444 - 12 Years Ago
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Y blocks do not use o rings or gaskets on the distributor no matter what they say. They can damage the distributor.
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By RC57 - 12 Years Ago
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Hi all, this is my first post though I've been a member for awhile. I've learned a lot of from these forums and I'd like to start by thanking all of the regulars for sharing. I have a 56 Sunliner that I'm working on and have been lucky enough to have found Tim to rebuild my 292.
I too, am looking for a 30-2808 and have had a real problem finding one. I did find that O'Reilly's has a Richporter FD06 that supposedly is for a 64 f100 with a 292. Has anyone used one of these?
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By aussiebill - 12 Years Ago
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RC57 (8/20/2013)
Hi all, this is my first post though I've been a member for awhile. I've learned a lot of from these forums and I'd like to start by thanking all of the regulars for sharing. I have a 56 Sunliner that I'm working on and have been lucky enough to have found Tim to rebuild my 292.
I too, am looking for a 30-2808 and have had a real problem finding one. I did find that O'Reilly's has a Richporter FD06 that supposedly is for a 64 f100 with a 292. Has anyone used one of these?
Try this one on ebay.
321185956334
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By The Horvaths - 12 Years Ago
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I'm using the new, Canadian-made Richporter. I have put a Pertronix II in it.
Gaskets and o-rings can/will cause the distributor to ride too high in a Y block.
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By oldcarmark - 12 Years Ago
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The Horvaths (8/20/2013)
I'm using the new, Canadian-made Richporter. I have put a Pertronix II in it. Gaskets and o-rings can/will cause the distributor to ride too high in a Y block.
Is the # FD06?Or what is the Part# on the one you have?Amazon.com has lots of them(FD06) for $71.00.However when the 1964 F100 is entered as the application it says "does not fit".Doesn't mean its not correct for a Y-block.Just not listed for that application.Also indicates manufactured at Taiwan facility.Is it a reman unit with the original Ford ID #'s or is it a completely new casting.This may be another source for these Distributors if they are a good unit.More info please.
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By oldcarmark - 12 Years Ago
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Also Summit Racing shows these 30-2808 available now $56.71 plus $30 core.Autopartswarehouse.com shows in stock.About the same price.But several other sources show temporarily unavailable so I would say there is a shortage of cores.No wonder.There is no core to return when they are used as replacements.
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By slick56 - 12 Years Ago
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Says it is a brand new unit, not remanufactured, but appears to be for sbF
Link here
http://www.amazon.com/Richporter-Technology-FD06-Distributor/dp/B001DAJQT2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377005352&sr=8-1&keywords=fd06+distributor
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By charliemccraney - 12 Years Ago
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The o-ring should not make it ride too high because it fits into the block, rather than on top of the block.
The FD06 replaced oem part numbers from C20F to D3UF, so roughly 1962 to 1973 so it should not be for a Y block.
Summitracing show an eta of 9/3 online.
It is indicated as in stock at Autopartswarehouse, though. Get them while they last. It's a good thing there are aftermarket options.
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By The Master Cylinder - 12 Years Ago
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charliemccraney (8/20/2013)
The FD06 replaced oem part numbers from C20F to D3UF, so roughly 1962 to 1973 so it should not be for a Y block.
Thanks Charlie, I was about to ask about that. The year range sounded incorrect.
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By The Horvaths - 12 Years Ago
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I see that the FD06 is made in Taiwan. Oh, well.
Anyway, the shaft is shorter and must be "stretched" by machining. It's a pain and, in hindsight, I should have gone with MSD.
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By speedpro56 - 12 Years Ago
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There are some differences in the two unit, the shafts are different in length being the top one has a shorter shaft on the bottom part of the case, not including the insert that looks like an allen wrench inserted but taller on the top end. The gear is much larger on the first ( top ) one as well. Just by looking at them the bodies look interchangeable thou.
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By GREENBIRD56 - 12 Years Ago
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This article pretty much shows how to repair a well used distributor - the y-block version has a different shaft but all of the other parts of the two varieties pretty much interchange......... I believe that the most common y-block part will be the Autolite variety. Motorcraft bodies were used for the aftermarket service replacements - but I don't know about the Ford replacement parts.
http://www.mustangmonthly.com/techarticles/mump_0904_how_to_rebuild__autolite_motorcraft_distributors/viewall.html
If the "rebuilt" availability is drying up - a restoration of a salvaged post 1958 part may work out to be the most economical way to get what you need............
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By oldcarmark - 12 Years Ago
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RC57 (8/20/2013)
Hi all, this is my first post though I've been a member for awhile. I've learned a lot of from these forums and I'd like to start by thanking all of the regulars for sharing. I have a 56 Sunliner that I'm working on and have been lucky enough to have found Tim to rebuild my 292.
I too, am looking for a 30-2808 and have had a real problem finding one. I did find that O'Reilly's has a Richporter FD06 that supposedly is for a 64 f100 with a 292. Has anyone used one of these?
Just did little more Net surfing.Advance Auto Parts shows 13 available updated 22 hours ago.Cheap-$45.00 plus $10.00 core.Its "ship to home" listed.You might want to check into that source also.If you google Cardone 30-2808 theres a site called "Frugal Mechanic" that lists available suppliers and you can order right from that site.
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By The Master Cylinder - 12 Years Ago
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 OMFG!!! The words out!! Better hurry and get yours quick before the price starts going up or "they" (GASP)  run out!!! 
I'm stocking up right now so I can sell the on ePay for LOSTA MONEY when you'all need one...
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By Hoosier Hurricane - 12 Years Ago
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Master Cylinder:
I can see why Cardone is running out. Most of the guys buying them are not turning in cores because they don't have one. Now I'm gonna hoard my cores so they will be as valuable as all the distributors you are going to buy. We'll both get rich!!!
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By The Master Cylinder - 12 Years Ago
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I see Auto Zone only charges $10.00 core charge, Summit and APW want $30-40.
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By RC57 - 12 Years Ago
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At the Advanced Auto Parts site it shows 13 available. Then when you select one and go to checkout it tells you there are none available. I ordered one from Summit and have been waiting over a month. Now they're saying they will have them on 9/3. I also have one ordered through Autozone, I'll find out tomorrow if they can get it. These are like gold!
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By charliemccraney - 12 Years Ago
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RC57 (8/21/2013)
These are like gold!
Nah, you can get gold.
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By RC57 - 12 Years Ago
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Well, good news! The 30-2808 I ordered from Autozone actually came in. I tried ordering through the 800 number and they told me they couldn't get it, but when he checked through a store nearby he said they could order it. He transferred me to the store and they ordered and it actually got here in two days.
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By The Master Cylinder - 12 Years Ago
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charliemccraney (8/20/2013)
It is indicated as in stock at Autopartswarehouse, though.
While waiting for the tile grout to dry in my kitchen and being the curios type I called Auto Parts Warehouse this morning and was informed that they had none in stock and when he checked it said it is no longer available from A1 Cardone.
The Horvaths (8/20/2013)
I'm using the new, Canadian-made Richporter.
Do you happen to know the part# so people that need one can order the correct distributor. Seems to be some confusion in the description, The Richporter FD06 appears not to be the correct distributor to fit a Y-Block??
Hoosier Hurricane (8/20/2013)
Master Cylinder:
I can see why Cardone is running out. Most of the guys buying them are not turning in cores because they don't have one. Now I'm gonna hoard my cores so they will be as valuable as all the distributors you are going to buy. We'll both get rich!!!
John I was joking before but it may be true, for you anyway... HOARD THOSE CORES
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