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Went for a long ride today in my '55 TBird.  The cars runs great with no issues.  When I pulled into the garage I heard a knocking noise coming from under the hood at idle.  I recently changed the heads and rockers, so I thought one of my rockers had loosened up. The knock sounded like it was coming from the fuel pump.  I used a long screw driver and the noise was not coming from the valve train like I suspected.  I could definitely hear it coming from the fuel pump itself.  I shut off the engine to let it cool down and the noise quit.  The pump is an old 292 dual action pump with the vacuum lines plugged. Anyone ever had a fuel pump do this?  I don't need the vacuum. Will a standard FE pump work in my 292?


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An FE pump will work.


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Florida_Phil (10/27/2017)
Went for a long ride today in my '55 TBird.  The cars runs great with no issues.  When I pulled into the garage I heard a knocking noise coming from under the hood at idle.  I recently changed the heads and rockers, so I thought one of my rockers had loosened up. The knock sounded like it was coming from the fuel pump.  I used a long screw driver and the noise was not coming from the valve train like I suspected.  I could definitely hear it coming from the fuel pump itself.  I shut off the engine to let it cool down and the noise quit.  The pump is an old 292 dual action pump with the vacuum lines plugged. Anyone ever had a fuel pump do this?  I don't need the vacuum. Will a standard FE pump work in my 292?

Airtex 6523 is a correct Y-Block Fuel Pump with the Filter in the Bottom.

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Wonder why the old pump knocks when it heats up?


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Because the pump is trying to suck vacuum but can't because the lines are plugged. Knock is the Vacuum diagram snapping back.   
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Fuel pump with glass bowl filter on bottom won't fit on '55-'57 Bird because of interference with cross member. They relocated glass fuel filter bowl to top of the engine.
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The pump should have a spring that forces the pump arm to follow the eccentric. Sometimes the spring will break or get weak enough that the arm sort of floats. When that happens it will make a knocking sound because the eccentric is coming around and hitting the arm since it isn't in contact with it.

I've seen this many times over the years.

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Would the pump actually work if this was the situation? Or work incorrectly providing little fuel? 

Dave C (10/28/2017)
The pump should have a spring that forces the pump arm to follow the eccentric. Sometimes the spring will break or get weak enough that the arm sort of floats. When that happens it will make a knocking sound because the eccentric is coming around and hitting the arm since it isn't in contact with it.

I've seen this many times over the years.

Dave 




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I have the vacuum lines plugged and never noticed any noise

Lou (10/27/2017)
Because the pump is trying to suck vacuum but can't because the lines are plugged. Knock is the Vacuum diagram snapping back.   




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Airtex 4208 Mechanical Fuel Pump    I believe this is the pump that I installed after getting my electric wipers. Hope this helps
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