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Valley Cover...Time for a PCV

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I LIKE THAT ...



Nice workmanship. I had seen that before but didn't know it was on a 2X4 install.

Was the needed adapter mod needed to clear the rear runner(s) on the intake?

Clean setup. The nice thing about the OEM valve was being able to disassemble and clean.



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KULTULZ Since Ford/Mercury used screw type PCV Valves (mine is an original replacement) a V100 can be screwed into a fitting or the base of a carb with 3/8” pipe threads. The feed to the PCV valve would come from the device on the valley cover just as Ford did. I used molded 1/2” hose and a 1/2” aluminum line for my dual quad unit but you can see the idea. I had to cut the hose device to clear my manifold. 









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I LIKE YOUR CONSTITUTION. I LIKE TO DO THINGS THAT SOMEONE IN THE LATE FIFTIES WOULD DO.

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You need to understand that I am a detail nut (CDO - Correct alphabetical order for OCD).

I want everything to appear as FORD, even if it is a performance upgrade. I also want it functional. If it doesn't work, it gets canned.

When I open the hood, it has to appear as OEM ASSY. A man has to maintain a certain level of pride.

NO CHI-COM CARB - CHI-COM GM HEI IGN - INTERSTATE BATTERY - STANT RADIATOR CAP - WORM CLAMPS - AND/OR MR. GASKET AIR CLEANER.

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Deyomatic (12/11/2022)


Kultulz,

What is the OEM separator?  Just that big square portion where my brillo pad (I think it's a Big 45 metal cleaner, actually) is? 

Or does something go inside the stock one?


The OEM SEPARATOR (1961-64) has no media filter element. It diverts the vacuum signal to a cooling tube which hopefully will allow contaminates to fall out of suspension and drain back to the separator/valley cover. FORD redesigned their system(s) on the early FE, MEL and SBF to use a mesh strainer.

If one decided not to use the OEM SEPARATOR/ADAPTER, some type of mesh filtering media should be used (IMO) to trap vapors/particulates before entering the PCV VALVE and combustion chambers.

This is (was) the OEM SEPARATOR -

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PN - C1AE 6A665-G

Refer back to this post for full system description - http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/FindPost162453.aspx








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Kultulz,
What is the OEM separator?  Just that big square portion where my brillo pad (I think it's a Big 45 metal cleaner, actually) is?  Or does something go inside the stock one?

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OK, let's try it this way -

You are not going to know how much blow-by/crankcase pressure is going to be drawn into the combustion chamber(s) unless it is excessive and carbons the plugs/piston crowns. Simple as that. You would need a BLOW-BY METER or AOS SYSTEM to know the extent of the ingestion.

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I stumbled across a post describing fabricating an adapter for the valley cover -

MR. Ted Eaton had fashioned this as an alternative to the OEM separator -

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I guess the intent was to use the valve grommet with the slit in the bottom. This will still allow vapors through the system and will hinder vacuum draw from the crankcase (IMO).

Now a separator is needed. Both BLUE THUNDER and MUMMERT includes a mesh strainer on their alum valley covers.

My thought is to modify the fabricated spacer to accept the strainer as used on the 5.0/5.8L EFI lower intake setups -

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This strainer would slide into the adapter and could easily be serviced. The PCV VALVE would mount atop as in the OEM EFI setup. The only problem I could see if it would possibly interfere with the ECZ-9425-B intake with the vacuum port at the rear of the intake runners. This idea is in lieu (Fr.) of the OEM separator (which I personally would prefer but that is not neither here nor there).








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This is really not going to do anything (IMO) and you would have to remove the valley cover on a regular basis to service/replace it.

And what if it fell out and landed in the lifter valley? The concept is correct but executed incorrectly (again - IMO).



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Mine has nothing and came from a1964 pickup. I’ve never found oil in the lines or the PVC valve.
That looks like something my mom used to scrub pots and pans with in the 40-60’s. 

56 Vic, B'Ville 200 MPH Club Member, So Cal.


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