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PARTS - Oil pan gasket and throw out brg

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Last week my new throwout bearing arrived. This was just the bearing, hub not included. I try to purchase top quality part, Timken, made in USA #1625. The outer steel shell had a large burr at the lip where it is rolled on to the front race. Tried to turn the bearing with my hands and at first it rotated with a gritty feeling then became impossible to rotate any further.                             Today I received a new oil pan gasket "Best" brand #24026E with not a single bolt hole punched out.  WTH?    Sorry fellas, I just needed to let off some steam.................

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Here is the post by 2721955meteor (Cliff) giving details on the oil pan support rail that he is producing.

REAR oil pan OIL LEAKS CURE (y-blocksforever.com)

http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/FindPost157556.aspx


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Ted, do you know if Best Gasket is again using the fiber material in the oil pan gasket?  I'd welcome coments from anyone regarding making a pan gasket from hi-temp silicone or neoprene. Thanks........... 

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How does the pan rail support affect the alignment of the tube running from the pan to the oil pump?


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Thanks for the reply.  The sump pickup tube to oil pump is fine - never a leak there. Ted brought up the fact the Best Gasket has/had a supply issue obtaining fiber material for their pan gaskets. Until I learn Best Gasket now includes the fiber material as they normally have used in the past, there is only two choices but not committed to anything yet: 1)Make my own from another possibly better material. 2)Purchase the pan/gasket kit from forum member 2721955lmeteor. I pulled the pan yesterday and spent time today attempting to straighten the pan rails. The rail profile resembled a sine wave but it is now much better after some pressing, clamping, squeezing etc..  The lower seal retainer bolt holes are dry up in the holes where the bolt heads are but I thought the two studs were not as snug as they should have been but weren't loose either and did have sealant on the threads. The RTV applied to all other areas was well formed into all the parting seams. Typically after replacing the pan gasket it takes about 8 months or so before the weeping starts then it's down hill after that. 

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I just found this advertizement although this particular ad is for an FE engine oil pan. Why not for a Y-block? Exactally what I believe is needed for out engines. I had experience with this exact silicone gasket material as used for rocker covers on aircraft engines and they last a life time and don't leak. I'll try calling the company tomorrow but doubt I'll hae any luck with just one gasket. https://realgaskets.com/product/oil-pan-gasket-10/

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I just found this advertizement although this particular ad is for an FE engine oil pan. Why not for a Y-block? Exactally what I believe is needed for out engines. I had experience with this exact silicone gasket material as used for rocker covers on aircraft engines and they last a life time and don't leak. I'll try calling the company tomorrow but doubt I'll hae any luck with just one gasket. https://realgaskets.com/product/oil-pan-gasket-10/

Just one?  I would expect EVERY Y-Block owner should want one. 
BTW: I was initially puzzled re: why the successfully permanent/reuse procedure used on my T-Bird valve covers (neoprene & RTV) wasn’t also standard with oil pans, until I considered the ‘cast alum. vs. steel’, & ‘bolt hole’ issues. My unwarped NOS pan should eliminate one aspect, but all those little holes are a complication.

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Today I spoke to the folks at Real Gasket TN..and agreed to send them a new Ford Y-block pan gasket for reference.  They agreed to produce 2 silicone gaskets and send them to me. I'll send one to Ted so he can evaluate it and the other one I'll install on my F100 for evaluation also.  My experience with silicone gaskets on aircraft engines has been excellent. You mentioned Y-block valve covers  which would also, IMO, be another candidate for silicone gaskets. 9 years ago I purchased neoprene valve cover gaskets from John Mummert. They are still in great shape even after being reused over and over and never leak. I have the old style pre '58 steel valve covers. 

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Greetings everyone - I purchased a Fel-Pro oil pan gasket that has been shipped to Real Gasket TN.  They are going to use it as a pattern to make the die for producing the new silicone gasket. All thoughts and comments welcome. 

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I would be interested in purchasing two oil pan gaskets.

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Dan, at this point it's still in the planning stage. I will try to reach out to the folks at Real Gasket TN and make sure this is going to move forward.  One very good thing is Ted offered his valuable time to evaluate one of the silicone gaskets and I will install another one on my 64 truck then go from there. I'll do my best to ro report to the forum all progress, good or otherwise, as it becomes available. 

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Forum Post PARTS - Oil pan gasket and throw out brg By FORD DEARBORN ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post Damn...Maybe call up Best. They're supposed to be, well... you know.... By Deyomatic ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post Just goes to show you that not everything with a "Made in USA" label... By 55blacktie ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post I have an idea the pandemic caused a lot of changing of the guards and... By FORD DEARBORN ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post I was wrong about the "Best" pan gasket. My son visited us today and... By FORD DEARBORN ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post Black fiber or cork on the oil pan gasket you received? With the... By Ted ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thanks Ted, that explains why the gasket is cork as opposed to the... By FORD DEARBORN ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]FORD DEARBORN (2/9/2023)[/b][hr] Thanks Ted, that... By DANIEL TINDER ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post Maybe the trouble is, these pans have been grossly over torqued so... By FORD DEARBORN ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]Ted (2/9/2023)[/b][hr] Black fiber or cork on the oil... By DANIEL TINDER ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]DANIEL TINDER (2/9/2023)[/b][hr] [quote][b]Ted... By Daniel Jessup ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post Evidently filling in the pan rail groves didn't help much either. I... By FORD DEARBORN ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post try my kit, plate is for the rear of the pan, gasket is thicker than... By 2721955meteor ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post Ah-ha! Thanks for the heads up and memory jogger. I totally forgot... By FORD DEARBORN ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post Received word today a silicone gasket prototype has been produced.... By FORD DEARBORN ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post RE: PARTS - Oil pan gasket and throw out brg By FORD DEARBORN ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]FORD DEARBORN (11/17/2023)[/b][hr]Received word today a... By Ted ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thanks Ted for your offer and time. I agree a wet run on the dyno... By FORD DEARBORN ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post Ted, I received the prototype silicone gasket and sent it USPS to your... By FORD DEARBORN ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post I think 2721955Meteor has a reinforcement kit for the Y-block oil... By 55blacktie ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post Here is the post by 2721955meteor (Cliff) giving details on the oil... By Ted ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post Ted, do you know if Best Gasket is again using the fiber material in... By FORD DEARBORN ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post How does the pan rail support affect the alignment of the tube running... By paul2748 ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post Thanks for the reply. The sump pickup tube to oil pump is fine -... By FORD DEARBORN ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post I just found this advertizement although this particular ad is for an... By FORD DEARBORN ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post [quote][b]FORD DEARBORN (4/17/2023)[/b][hr] I just found this... By DANIEL TINDER ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post Today I spoke to the folks at Real Gasket TN..and agreed to send them... By FORD DEARBORN ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post Greetings everyone - I purchased a Fel-Pro oil pan gasket that has... By FORD DEARBORN ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post I would be interested in purchasing two oil pan gaskets. By Daniel Jessup ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post Dan, at this point it's still in the planning stage. I will try to... By FORD DEARBORN ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post the oil seal retainer is a rough area as ted said.i always put some... By darrell ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post The oil pan gasket has arrived. Plans are to first just lay it on a... By Ted ( 2 Years Ago )
Forum Post SOUNDS LIKE I SHOULD DO ANOTHER RUN AND MAKE MORE OF THE THICKER... By 2721955meteor ( 2 Years Ago )


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