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46yblock
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suede57ford (11/12/2009)
90% of "312's" are not 312's. Anyone with a Y-block or Y-block powered car calls it a 312, because it sounds like it is worth more money.

If it truely is a 312 and truely a complete '57 T-Bird Motor it is actually worth $1000, especially if you need a complete one for a T-bird.  

The tranny is not an easy sell, so don't count it as having value.

At a show this summer there was a '56 F-100 with a big sign in front of it telling everything that had been done.  Included on the sign was "Engine-Original 312".

Mike, located in the Siskiyou mountains, Southern, OR 292 powered 1946 Ford 1/2 ton, '62 Mercury Meteor, '55 Country Squire (parting out), '64 Falcon, '54 Ford 600 tractor.


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46yblock (11/12/2009)
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At a show this summer there was a '56 F-100 with a big sign in front of it telling everything that had been done.  Included on the sign was "Engine-Original 312".

That's one rare '56 F-100 Wink

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Here are pics of the engine.Don't know if you can tell if it's a 312 or not, maybe someone with a keener eye could spot something. Thanks for the advice anyway. Randy
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It's not a T-bird motor.

Weren't the T-bird specials that were available in cars 312s if they had the T-bird valve covers? The problem with that is how do you know if the valve covers are original to the motor.


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Charlie's right almost anything can be bolted on - the valve covers and air cleaner are easy changes. Four blade fan is odd for a bird but some got changed due to breakage.

If there is a LH exhaust manifold specific to the bird - casting prefix ECJ - and a tach drive distributor??? One inch spacer between the waterpump and front cover....... 

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Looks to me like it has a passenger car pan. hard to tell from those pics.

Also has pass. water inlet.

Still might be a decent buy if it runs. the valve covers are valuable as is the air cleaner, A 292 is just fine, 312 is highly overated.









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Also just spotted a passenger dipstick. It's worth something, A $1000?, not to me









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Wish the pictures were a little bigger... I don't think the water pump is spaced out either, the bypass hose does not look long enough. Also agree with the others, car oil pan, dip stick location, thermostat housing. Can't quite make out the timing chain cover...

BOB


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The photos aren't detailed enough. Also keep in mind that as noted the actual T.Bird engine had special pieces. However it could still be a 312, but not as valuable. Again.. check the crank flange, trans off for a detent with a short 5/16" dia dot. Or pull the pan and look for ECZ on bottom of the rods. If seller does not allow any of this, assume it's a 292. I'd walk away..

Paul
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I too found a 1957 Thunderbird 312 w/tranny. This engine was pulled from a 1957 Fairlane 500, but we where told that it was a transplant. This engine is complete, except for the air cleaner. It also came with the power steering pump, 12 volt genny, starter, exhaust manifolds, and distributor. Not a bad find



Here are the markings that I have found so far.

Driver's side head - ECZ-G

Intake - ECZ-9425-B

Block - driver's side - ECZ-6015-C

Pass side - looks like 8A followed by a V with an o inside



The gen. is mounted in front of the block not beside it. It also has the Thunderbird valve covers.



I got this engine and tranny for $350.00 and it runs great, but has a little smoke at start-up, will need new valve seals. I was told by a long time Ford man that this did come from a Thunderbird. I will remove the tranny today and look for the dot.



I will post pictures later to

Jeff Leydig
Stallions Auto Interiors
Stearns, Ky. USA



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