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Intake manifold testing on the new heads

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shadowman
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 I must of missed the day when HP didn't cost money or time, time spent chasing HP costs money.  Wether you like the saying or not its true.

 Patience is a virtue, there are multiple development projects going on as we speak with the alum. heads. They are being laid out for specific purposes and reasons.

  The one thing that should be pointed out is that in todays age parameters can be laid out very accuratley to taylor certain projects. The old days of trying what I would call off the wall things just to see what happens aren't really neccesary. 

Dyno testing will be performed to back up different levels of performance.  Giving customers the most for their money is a priority with the new heads wether it be as cast or at different levels porting. Camshafts for the new heads will also be available

 The expected delivery date for the 2nd batch of heads will be some time in October. I don't think anyone will be let downWink.

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hi ted, i just got done looking at the 56 hotrod article and they showed the 56 merc 2x4's holleys had 6.688 sq. in. of total venturi area. the carters had 6.60 with a 1/16 smaller secondary's, and the edelbrock 3x2's with 56 ford 2bbl's had 5.32 sq. in. with stock 1 1/16 butterfly's. after they bored the carbs to 1 3/16 they showed 6.65 sq. in. of venturi area. i'm sure someone here can convert those # to cfm. they never did try the 2x4's on the finnished engine. i think it would have done a little better with the 2x4's. 342 cu. in., ported c heads with 11.3 comp., 1 7/8 intake, 1 5/8 exhaust valves, and headers. 303 honest hp. but there chart showed 340 corrected hp.

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Ted, I see the ECZ-B manifold actually works better with a smaller 650cfm carb and 1/2" spacer. Have you tried Johns manifold as such, without spacer and 650cfm carb and various other spacers, Carbs.

Holley suggests a 570 cfm for performance 390cfm stock!
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Carbs and spacers have been tested to death. YBM issue #108 covered an engine build where just three of the basic carb spacer designs were dyno tested. Here’s the link to that article. http://www.eatonbalancing.com/blog/2012/09/29/carburetor-spacer-testing/

The latest issue of the YBM (#120) goes into detail on the effect of the slot in the plenum divider which gives some insight on how that slot affects the torque values by itself. For the most part, each engine combination likes something a little different but there are some trends that do come to the forefront.

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John’s intake as well as the Blue Thunder intake works well with almost any carburetor but head flow is the key here. With either of these intake manifolds, stock heads prefer smaller sized carbs while cylinder heads with increased flow capabilities will make more power with larger carbs being used. This is simply a case where whichever piece has the minimum flow values, be it the heads or the intake, dictates the optimum cfm of the carb being used.

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There are very few instances where the intake port runners would be sized smaller than the heads if looking to maximize power numbers. It essentially boils down to the intake manifold simply needing to outflow the cylinder heads if wanting to maximize the benefits of any cylinder head flow increases. Out of the box Mummert and Blue Thunder intakes do this in fine fashion on most home ported cylinder heads. When porting the aluminum heads, then porting the aluminum intakes becomes prerequisite simply due to the intake manifold still needing to outflow the heads in order to maximize any head porting benefits.

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The factory ECZ-B intake was well matched to the factory G and 113 heads but if the heads are ported, then the intake needs to be appropriately ported so it can keep up with the cylinder head flow requirements.



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I must of missed the day when HP didn't cost money or time, time spent chasing HP costs money. Wether you like the saying or not its true. Patience is a virtue, there are multiple development projects going on as we speak with the alum. heads. They are being laid out for specific purposes and reasons.

The one thing that should be pointed out is that in todays age parameters can be laid out very accuratley to taylor certain projects. The old days of trying what I would call off the wall things just to see what happens aren't really neccesary.

Dyno testing will be performed to back up different levels of performance. Giving customers the most for their money is a priority with the new heads wether it be as cast or at different levels porting. Camshafts for the new heads will also be available

The expected delivery date for the 2nd batch of heads will be some time in October. I don't think anyone will be let downWink.


Refreshing to see what you have said here, i hope some of the newer members read it!

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