Howdy all,



Well I've been watching this site for quite some time but never had anything to say until today!





I had my 1960 292 rebuilt by a local machine shop last winter in preparation of putting it in my 55 F-600.



I pretty much watched most of the process except the final assembly (big mistake probably)



I decided to do a little work on it and wanted to "spin" the oil pump to prime it and check oil n the top end.





Well, no oil in the top end!



I am hoping that the rocker tubes are just "turned" or something simple like that and not the block/heads are plugged or the camshaft bearings are not aligned with the holes etc.





Anyone with other ideas? I think the guy would make it good. I toyed with the idea of giving him a copy of Mummerts list of "mistakes" but didn't want to insult him (older guy)





Thanks












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Rick,



If your 292 has drilled cam journals (not grooved), the oil pump won't feed the top end unless the holes/cam are aligned. Slowly turn the motor over by hand while driving the pump and watch the rocker drain.

6 VOLTS/POS. GRD. NW INDIANA

Is it pumping at all?



The rocker shafts could be assembled so that the holes are not lining up correctly. When standing in front of the truck, looking at the engine, the shaft drain tube should be at the rear of the right head and the front of the left head.


Lawrenceville, GA

Thanks for the quick reply!





I hadn't thought of that at all!



I cannot remember where the cam came from. (I believe he told me it was a new one) I did tell him that the engine IS a 60 model so I'm assuming that he would have gotten a cam for the newer engines.



The newer cams are drilled and the older ones grooved??



I hope so. I really don't want to have this guy tear it down (even if he will!)



My eventual plan is to mate this engine up to an E4OD in the truck using a Bentsen adapter.



The machine shop guy also did a little intake porting and balanced the rotating mass.



I also have a set of (ceramic coated) Mummerts Rams Horns on it.....They are Beautiful!





I'll try turning the engine and I'll check the orientation of the rocker tubes.


























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I don't mean to offend, but did you spin the pump clockwise or counter clockwise?

Glen Henderson



Freedom is not Free

Letohatchee, AL

No offense taken







That would've been my first question too because initially I did spin it the wrong way (clockwise!!)

I couldn't remember which way it was supposed to go.....it did pump oil CCW because I found out how loose the oil filter was when it spewed oil out at the oil filter base!!



I was able to pump oil just using a hand crank type 1/4 drive speed wrench. I didn't put a gage on it but I think it was pumping pretty good. It was very hard to tun CCW and it felt like it was producing a fair amount of pressure.. I had to tighten the filter another half turn to get it to stop leaking.




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Pull the rocker arm assemblies to make sure the holes in the shaft matches the hole in the head. If not that is your problem. They can be put on wrong. While you have them off, spin the pump with a drill (counterclock wise) to see if oil come up in the hole in the head. If you don't get oil then, it may be the bearing.



Did you have a cross drilled cam? If so, try turning the motor over a little and then turn the oil pump with the drill.



You can test the oil pump by setting up a mechanical oil gauge and spin the pump.

54 Victoria 312;  48 Ford Conv 302, 56 Bird 312
Forever Ford
Midland Park, NJ

Ok,



You'll have to excuse my ignorance!





Are you saying that because of the way the cam is drilled(if it's drilled), I can move the crank in small increments and find the point where oil will flow up thru the

block and heads to the rockers? (presumably each side gets a shot of oil at a different position of the crank?)





I'll give that a try. I suppose it's possible that both rocker shafts are installed wrong. I didn't do it. I allowed the machine shop guy that was supposed to know what he's doing do the job.



I guess I should have given him the Mummert list of possible assembly errors!




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Before you do any damage why not call " the guy who did it "and ask him if he was aware of the rocker shaft oil holes and if he assembled it right. BEFORE you mess it up.

I would think that removing the rocker shafts wouldn't cause damage. I know I'll have to readjust the valves but I would want to check the adjustment anyway.



I was going to try turning the crank a little at a time and turn the pump to see if I can get oil to flow out of the supply port on each side.

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