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By Dave V - 11 Years Ago
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Is there a fuel pump available for a y-block without vacuum assist? If so, what year and model vehicle would I order it for? Dave V.
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By MoonShadow - 11 Years Ago
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Any of the early FE's will work. I run a pump for a 60's 427 hipo on mine. Chuck
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By Dave V - 11 Years Ago
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Chuck I'm using an FE fuel pump now and it puts out too much pressure(8psi). I installed a Holley fuel pressure regulator to keep the Holley carb from flooding the engine. Had it set to 4.5psi and was working good for 1000 miles. Now the regulator keeps losing adjustment and the carb is flooding the engine again. Would rather go back to a Y-block fuel pump and maybe an Edelbrock carb. Dave V
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By Hoosier Hurricane - 11 Years Ago
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Since Ford went to electric wipers after '61, a '62 292 pump would be non-vacuum assist. Check your local parts store.
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By ian57tbird - 11 Years Ago
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I'm no expert, but would have thought that the Holley could have been set up to take the higher pressures.
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By pegleg - 11 Years Ago
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re: Flooding. Pressure may not be the whole issue, check the needles and seats and add a clean fuel filter after the pump, before the carb.
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By Dave V - 11 Years Ago
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As far as having a filter after the pump, is it possible that the FE pump and pressure regulator are not compatible with modern fuels causing rubber contaminants to cause problems in the float needle and seat? Dave V
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By Park Olson - 11 Years Ago
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Use the pump listed for a '64 292 truck. It has a cartridge filter on it also.
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By pegleg - 11 Years Ago
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Dave V (6/23/2014)
As far as having a filter after the pump, is it possible that the FE pump and pressure regulator are not compatible with modern fuels causing rubber contaminants to cause problems in the float needle and seat? Dave V
It's possible, but not likely. Many of us run rebuilt FE pumps with little problem. Most likely the problem is a contaminated fuel tank or a carp that needed to be cleaned and rebuilt
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By MoonShadow - 11 Years Ago
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I had the 427 hipo pump on my Vicky for years and through way too many engine swaps. The only problem I found is the need for an electric pusher pump at the tank when I make a pass with the McCullouch supercharger. I was running out of fuel at the high RPM side of 2d gear. So I don't think the pump is the problem. Chuck
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By Dave V - 11 Years Ago
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As far as contaminants from the tank, I do have an inline filter just before the fuel pump. Do you feel another one is still needed after the pump? Dave
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By GREENBIRD56 - 11 Years Ago
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This may be that bugaboo with the Holley - Viton needle and seat sticking in the "new" gas. In that case, a change to the steel needles - listed for alcohol - will help a lot. While they flow more fuel due to the upsize, the standard float will easily seat them.
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By Dave V - 11 Years Ago
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Tried again to keep the Fe pump setup. I replaced the needles and seats in the carb, ordered another Holley pressure regulator and installed it. Does not adjust at all. 8psi no matter where I adjust it. I didn't run it long enough for the carb to flood. Got online and checked reviews on this regulator. Not good. I'm undecided now whether to install a Y-block fuel pump or an- other brand of regulator. Dave V
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By GREENBIRD56 - 11 Years Ago
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Are you sure of your pressure gauge? Just a thought. I'm running the 428 "police" spec pump - but with an AC GF62 filter between it and the carb. When I had stability problems with the float setting - I changed to the alcohol (steel) needle / seats. That fixed the stability problem and now its reliable.
If you run your set-up at idle - with the Holley bowl sight plugs open - will fuel levels stay where you want them? Just wet the lower threads is the old rule before the new windows came out .
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By Dave V - 11 Years Ago
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Steve I have changed gauges to confirm the readings. Still shows 8 psi. Researched online for other fuel pressure regulator reviews and havn't found any that had all good reviews. The Holley carb is the cheaper version without fuel level sight holes or external adjustable floats. I removed an old Y-block fuel pump from my old engine last night and will install it today without a fuel pressure regulator. I'll let you know how it works. Dave V.
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By pegleg - 11 Years Ago
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Dave, Summit racing lists there own regulator, I have one on my F code, been working correctly for 5 or 6 years. The holley version was junk.
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By MoonShadow - 11 Years Ago
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Ditto Frank. I've had several of the Holley regulators and never found a way to make them work. Maybe that's why they are online kind of cheap. I went to an Aeromotive unit and all has been fine for a while. Chuck
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By ecode ragtop - 11 Years Ago
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Frank,I orded 2 of the summit brand regulators, came in a white box with a summit part number . In side was a holley regulator with Holley cast into it! We all know that summit does not make thier own parts, but that is what I received. Tom
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By Dave V - 11 Years Ago
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I removed the FE fuel pump and pressure regulator, installed my old Y-block fuel pump with vacuum boost and the engine runs great with a steady 4.5 psi gauge reading. Just hope the carb keeps from flooding now. I'll be happy if it stays working with this setup. Dave V.
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By GREENBIRD56 - 11 Years Ago
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That business with the flooding carb - especially with the "new improved / no adjustment" Holley float arrangement --------- seems pretty spooky to me. Must be OK when used with reduced or lower fuel pressure tho.
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By Dave V - 11 Years Ago
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It's working for now at 4.5psi but I think the steel needles would be the better way to go like you suggested in a previous post. Dave V
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By MoonShadow - 11 Years Ago
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Are the steel needles recommended for street carbs too? Should I replace the Viton types with them? Chuck
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By GREENBIRD56 - 11 Years Ago
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Chuck - I don't know about "recommended" as in by a source like Holley - but...............older model carbs used to always have the steel needles and the "Viton" tips were an improvement (so long as we had a "real" non-alcoholic gasoline). An old post on here had some illuminating comments by Hoosier concerning some rebuild parts and making sure the needles were steel but I couldn't even tell you how old the post was.
There is a Holley part number that will get you a pair of the smaller /smallest alcohol needle/seat assemblies and that is what I ordered. They fit right in and adjusted fine - I've got the 428 police interceptor pump on it and though they are twice the inlet diameter as the usual Viton parts - no problemos with sealing. Their listed orifice size was exactly twice that of the common gas parts, but the area of the opening is still only .011 in² ........so force required to overcome pressure and seat is never going to exceed the ability of the float.
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By ejstith - 11 Years Ago
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I have a 390 pump on mine. Works fine.
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By pegleg - 11 Years Ago
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I should have mentioned that I run steel needles in my carbs also. Hoosier led me into that one too after I had the Viton needles go soft, stick and then leak.
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By Dave V - 11 Years Ago
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I'm headed to the Iola Old Car Show and swap meet today which runs thru Sunday. I should be able to find some of the steel needles there thanks to the 4400 venders at this show. Dave V
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