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By flathead_jr - 17 Years Ago
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I just picked up a 41 Ford tudor a couple of weeks ago and have been planning to put a Y-block in the car as I have plenty of them, and probably a couple more I could get in the spring. I want to keep the original front suspension, but will be installing a more modern rear axle. I just wondered what complications I may have while trying to put this motor in, as I will also be using a 3-speed overdrive trans. I know there will be some mods to the x-member, but I am unsure what to do with the front engine mounts. The price was right for the car, the kind where they say come and get it, or free.99.
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By pegleg - 17 Years Ago
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I guess you don't live in Florida. You will have to make mounts, but you can use either the passenger car oil pan, or the truck oil pan and pump, depends on whether you want a front or reae sump. The truck front mount and bell will give you alternate points to mount. The 57up passenger cars use side mounts are similar to modern engines, side mounts. The trucks use a front mount and two more on the bell. Tranny just hangs. It will depend on what you already have and decide to use.
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By 46yblock - 17 Years Ago
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You can use a Hurst front motor mount for Y to 32-48 Ford. They require the truck front cover or some spacers between the mount and car cover. They have been showing up regularly on e-bay, generally going for $100. I will try and post a picture of mine below. Other requirements: electric fuel pump, remote oil filter, modified truck rear sump pan to start. A fellow on FTE bought a 41 pickup which already had a Y installed. A truck pan had been mod'ed so that the front flat part of the pan was about half as deep as orininally, so as to clear stock members of the suspension. The 41 pickup frame and suspension is basically the same as your Tudor, at least that is my understanding. One of the biggest challenges to putting a Y-block into an early narrow framed Ford is the DS exhaust. There are all sorts of things getting in the way over there. Within the next couple weeks I am going to try one more time to get a Rams horn to fit up to the DS by having the machine shop mill the flange on as much an angle as possible. The idea is to angle the manifold outlet more inward, to fit up an exhaust pipe between steering box and block. Could not attach a pic due to lack of space. I could email you one though.
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By Nick Brann - 17 Years Ago
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Hi, Oddly enough I have a copy of Rod & Custom magazine dated April, 1961 and it has an article about putting a 312 in a '40 Ford pickup. The mag was laying on top of a stack of magazines in my "office". Actually it is part one of the article, I don't have part two. It is by famed hot rodder Doane Spencer. If you will send me your mailing address, I'll be glad to xerox it and mail it by regular mail. This article is six pages with lots of photos, and it is called "frame and firewall modification". According to the article, it applies to any '34-48 Henry-built. Write back if interested and I'll mail a copy to you. Nick in K.C., MO
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By ejstith - 17 Years Ago
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Glad you're keepin' it Ford and not puttin' a belly button in it. Good deal!!
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By Johnson Rod - 17 Years Ago
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Not sure if you can use a passenger car pan, I think you will have to use a modified truck pan as 46yblock stated to clear the front cross member or a T-Bird pan as I used years ago in my '38 (believe it or not it was sooo long ago that I got a NEW 'bird pan and pick up from the local Ford dealer).
Also the oil filter wants to be right where the steering box is...
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By 55Birdman - 17 Years Ago
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I have some truck parts if you need some. I have starter,oil pump,oil pan,generator,etc.off a 292.
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By flathead_jr - 17 Years Ago
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I always keep my Fords, all Ford, and try and use period parts if they are availible. I have quite a few truck parts, and I was thinking about a bird pan as the sump is in the back. I have the oil filter adapter off of a truck that put the filter along the side of the block rather than strait out. Some one said they had photos, my e-mail is jryanc@cableone.net. Mailing address is: Ryan Campbell 616 Angela Dr. Rexburg, Id 83440 You guys are giving me some good ideas here, I was thinking about putting the flathead back in as I have some of those as well, but I figured I'd do something different this time as I already have a few flathead powered vehicles.
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By PF Arcand - 17 Years Ago
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On the issue of clearance around the steering box & oil filter, is there a shorter filter that will work on our engines?
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By Hoosier Hurricane - 17 Years Ago
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Yes there is. Don't have the number on the tip of my tongue, but the filter for my Chrysler T&C with the 3.8 engine is a shorter version of the Ford filter. Actually, I use the FL1A on my van since there is plenty of room. John
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By pegleg - 17 Years Ago
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There are a number of remote filter kits available that will solve the problem cheaply. That way you could use one full length filter, or even two. They make a parallel double filter unit also. Transdapt and others (Summit/Jegs).
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By flathead_jr - 17 Years Ago
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Hastings number is a LF107, the regular version is a LF115
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By PF Arcand - 17 Years Ago
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Thanks everybody, I'll make notes of the info.
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By 46yblock - 17 Years Ago
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Flathead, the pic is on the hard drive at home, so I will send it after returning from the holiday, Monday.
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