By Dan - 15 Years Ago
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ran into a couple probs with some head bolts but I think its all good now... should have the hot rod project engine running this week or next, stayed tuned!
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By YellowWing - 15 Years Ago
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congratulations Dan. Let us know how it does. Mike
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By mctim64 - 15 Years Ago
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I think we have all been waiting for this, I hope you can post video.
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By Dan - 15 Years Ago
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holy #@$!put it on the stand and pulled the pan, checked end clearance on the rods and found one didnt feel right, sure enough it was on backwards, flip it around and everything is groovy, turns over like a dream...start slowly torquing everything back down, get to the very last main cap and .... I just about puked... time for a new block we have another block here in the shop we will tear down and measure, hopefully its useable, a setback for sure but we'll make it happen...
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By PF Arcand - 15 Years Ago
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Dan: Bad luck! I feel for you. However, the first question is, what torque value did you use? And if you have quite a bit of money invested in that block, is there someone local that does casting repairs? Possible it could be carefully built up with Ni Rod or similar & machined or filed down to fit. Just a thought. Maybe someone else on site may also have a solution?..
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By Dan - 15 Years Ago
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I was creeeping up to a torque of 95 ft lbs, I was torquing them to 70 ft lbs when this happened... some guys on another site have suggested heli-coils and running a stud, not sure what I'm going to try yet... Dont have tons of money tied up in this block so I think I am going to teardown the other we have and see about using it...I think I have couple options we are only going to be out alittle of time and money - nothing fatal I dont think...
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By Hoosier Hurricane - 15 Years Ago
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Dan: The rear main cap is shorter than the other 4, so it uses shorter bolts. Is it possible one of the short bolts ended up in that hole? That might cause the breakage. If the bolts are mixed up, at least one of the rear bolts is too long and bottomed out. A stud in that front hole to take advantage of all the remaining threads is a good idea, worth a try.
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By PF Arcand - 15 Years Ago
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John: Along with replacing the bolt with a stud, would it be possible to Devcon steel or JB weld the broken piece in place so the cap has more surface to fit too?. Would a repair like that stand the heat?
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By Bob's 55 - 15 Years Ago
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What is the chance of the bearing 'walking' around due to the lack of metal in the area along with the bearing tab hanging in the breeze. Call me over cautious but I would use the other block.
On another note, what the heck beat up the oil slinger like that...
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By Hoosier Hurricane - 15 Years Ago
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If it were me, I wouldn't try to glue that piece in place. If it came out, it might cause damage before it found its way to the pan. The lack of bearing support wouldn't concern me, it is a very small area. The bearing is clamped in the block by the "crush" when the cap is tigntened, it wouldn't go anywhere.
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By Dan - 15 Years Ago
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all good ideas, I think we will tear down our other block and see if its useable, dont want to risk ruining the good stuff in this block... if our extra is no good sounds like I've got a line on a some other blocks stay tuned...
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By Dan - 15 Years Ago
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so we dug out our extra engine and it is a 272, good news as the pistons we have are 292 bore size so if this block turns out to be okay we can open it up to 292 size... assembling the first engine we reused our headbolts and main cap bolts, dont think I want to do that again...who carries replacements? thanks-
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By Glen Henderson - 15 Years Ago
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John Mummert has head bolts and main bolts along with studs.
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By Dan - 15 Years Ago
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thanks Glen I'll look him up...
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By Dan - 15 Years Ago
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AAAGHH! I know you cant do better than ARP, but are there any other options??
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By Dan - 15 Years Ago
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Well...after tons of soaking and banging it turns out our extra engine seems like it is froze solid, going to try and find another block to use, have a buddy in Billings who is supposed to have a few so we should be in luck, I will keep you guys posted!
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By GREENBIRD56 - 15 Years Ago
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This info is very old - long shot at best but ....... Try Eric Van Winkle - 428 Orchard Lane, Biullings, Mt. 265-9837 in your area code I'm scrounging through my cards - there is a gentleman in Beulah, North Dakota - northeast of you ....Watson(?) with a forty acre field full of Edsels out by the Antelope Power Station. I found him by asking at the NAPA in Beulah if there was a local collector of old Fords....and as it turns out - he is the king.
If you go there don't expect to get away too quick........he doesn't get too many strangers to talk to.
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By GREENBIRD56 - 15 Years Ago
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I made a couple of calls - one of my field techs grew up in Beulah, N.D. The Edsel man's name is Leroy Walker - (701) 873-4491 He has the most beautiful '56 Lincoln I've ever seen -(unrestored - just "saved" in a barn).
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By Dan - 15 Years Ago
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WOW! That is great info., thanks!
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