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By 56 ford custom - 13 Years Ago
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I have a 1960 f100 custom cab that I am pretty sure that was all stock. I pulled the 292 out,it was tired and beat. It had a ford o matic fluid cooled that has that canister on the side of it that taps into the block of the motor. I picked up another 292 that has a ford o matic on it and on the bellhousing it has mesh. Is it air cooled?
Here is the thing....I am not sure which one to use. I would like the fluid cooled one since it was original but I am told not to use the cooler? Why is that? Then others say they work great. Should I use that fluid cooled trans and transfer all the hard lines off the old motor to the new? I also was told to.get a trans cooler on the radiator.Or just use the air cooled trans? I am stumped on this.
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By 56 ford custom - 13 Years Ago
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Somebody must be able to help here
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By PF Arcand - 13 Years Ago
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The one with the mesh is likely an earlier air cooled. Which one to use? First do you know what condition both are in? That would be a start. Beyond that, I don't know if there would be fitting differences. Someone else should chime in..
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By 56 ford custom - 13 Years Ago
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Well the trans with the cooler was in the truck and worked. The other trans worked aswell.
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By Pete 55Tbird - 13 Years Ago
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OK I will take a shot. On any automatic transmission you use the big enemy is HEAT. So if your two Fordomatics are both working about the same then for light duty each will be suitable to use. If you will be doing any heavy work or going fast then the water-cooled FOM is the better choice BUT not with the side cooler you mention. Use at least a radiator with an A/T cooler built into it and then ADD an auxiliary transmission cooler as well. Find out which of the two cooler lines from the FOM are line in and line out and plumb the radiator first then the aux cooler then return to the FOM. Pete
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By 56 ford custom - 13 Years Ago
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Whats wrong with the side cooler?
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By Grizzly - 13 Years Ago
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Lowlife, Water cools 32 times more efficently than air. Aftermarket coolers are made as additional cooling only. To run the trans with water cooling you will need a radiator with a cooler. I always treat 2nd hand autos as cores. You may get lucky and be able to run one for a while. Early autos have thier share of issues, are expensive to repair and hard to get parts for. It may be cheaper and better to go with something else. Of course depending on your budget. Cheers Warren
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By 56 ford custom - 13 Years Ago
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This xooler doesnt go to the radiator. It goes to the block on the motor.
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By Pete 55Tbird - 13 Years Ago
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As the old saying goes "SIZE MATTERS" and your present cooler is both too small and is not explsed to enough air flow. Do a google search for transmission coolers and see. Pete
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By 56 ford custom - 13 Years Ago
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Ok well.since this cooler wont work...has anyone here converted one of these? Any diagram or part numbers? Pics?
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By mr4speedford - 13 Years Ago
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Use the cooler you have! Its a water cooled transcooler, it will do the same thing as a one mounted in the radiator. Why buy more parts to achieve the same result. If it didn't work, how did all these ford-o-matic trucks and cars drive around back in the day?
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By 56 ford custom - 13 Years Ago
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Thats exactlywhat I think.
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By 56 ford custom - 13 Years Ago
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On another forum I was told that its a trans warmer? Why would that be?
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By rick55 - 13 Years Ago
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I think I have been answering your posts on the Ford Barn site. There is a major problem nowadays with using trans coolers running through the radiator. If you are not using an original rad with copper/brass tanks it is probably aluminum and these are prone to crack or split the cooler tubes inside the rad. Do not use these rads to connect the auto to. Use a separate transmission cooler. If the tubes crack your transmission is toast. The trannys heat up through the heat of the block and the friction within the box. Do your tranny a favour and keep the cooler separate.
Use the gearbox with the external cooling in preference to the one without.
Regards
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By rick55 - 13 Years Ago
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Forgot to mention that the bell housing for the car auto will be probably be different than the one that came out of your F100 as they may be using engine mounts off the bellhousing in the effy.
Regards
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By 56 ford custom - 13 Years Ago
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Yes I am pretty sure you have been. So it would not be a good idea to use the stock cooler that I have now? Also somebody mentioned either here or another forum that it might be a "warmer" Im not sure but I want to clarify and gaurantee that this is infact a COM before I do anthing with it.
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By rick55 - 13 Years Ago
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If the box is original it is a COM. You should be able to identify by the illustrations that have been posted on the Ford Barn site which shows the differences between the boxes.
The cooler is primarily that. It is more important to get heat out of an automatic than putting heat in. With the transfer of heat from the engine block and the internal friction of an auto they get warm enough.
Regards
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By 56 ford custom - 13 Years Ago
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Ok so you guys say its a COM and that I shouldnt use the original cooler. Who makes a kot specifically for this motor and trans? I do npt want to nor can Ibafford a new radiator with cooler on the bottom.
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By 56 ford custom - 13 Years Ago
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Here is some ID 
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