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By Kennykiwi - 13 Years Ago
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Hi there, this is my first post, all the way from the "land of the long white cloud". I've got a 57 retractable that I need to replace the dizzy on. I've been reading some of the threads on here about different distributors and have decided to give the windsor dizzy a try. I bought one today $100 and as mentioned on other threads the shaft needs to be lengthened. If I'm correct, the new shaft needs to be 90mm long, but I noticed that the new gear on the windsor dizzy is on a seperate shaft that has a tongue which fits into a grove on the shaft from the dizzy, also, the windsor gear has a long sleeve which acts as a collar over the tongue and grove coupling. What I would like to know is do you really have to weld a new shaft on to it, or, can the new shaft simply be slotted into the existing grove on the windsor shaft, as long as i include a similar collar over the coupling??? Any ideas would be appreciated. Cheers ken.
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By aussiebill - 13 Years Ago
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Kennykiwi (8/4/2012)
Hi there, this is my first post, all the way from the "land of the long white cloud". I've got a 57 retractable that I need to replace the dizzy on. I've been reading some of the threads on here about different distributors and have decided to give the windsor dizzy a try. I bought one today $100 and as mentioned on other threads the shaft needs to be lengthened. If I'm correct, the new shaft needs to be 90mm long, but I noticed that the new gear on the windsor dizzy is on a seperate shaft that has a tongue which fits into a grove on the shaft from the dizzy, also, the windsor gear has a long sleeve which acts as a collar over the tongue and grove coupling. What I would like to know is do you really have to weld a new shaft on to it, or, can the new shaft simply be slotted into the existing grove on the windsor shaft, as long as i include a similar collar over the coupling??? Any ideas would be appreciated. Cheers ken. Kiwi, what you have there is a procomp style of late distributor, they have 2 piece lower shaft with a collar over the slotted join. The distributors mentioned re welding are the original 67 -71 falcon style. Yes you can just modify the lower end as you described. i have done it. My only reservation is the chance of the lower half staying in block when removing dist, this could be solved by securing the 2 parts better.
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By Kennykiwi - 13 Years Ago
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Thanks for that AussieBill, I was hoping it would be you that replied, and I will see about putting a pin through each side of the collar. Cheers ken
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By Kennykiwi - 13 Years Ago
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Lust had another idea, and that is to make the collar a light press fit over bothe shafts. Ken.
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By pegleg - 13 Years Ago
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Probably a stupid question, but why not just get a late model Y block distributor like I sent to Moz a couple years ago?
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By Kennykiwi - 13 Years Ago
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pegleg (8/4/2012)
Probably a stupid question, but why not just get a late model Y block distributor like I sent to Moz a couple years ago?I haven't looked into that, just thought the windsor idea sounded pretty good and a cheap way of going electronic, and as I live in NZ I would have to import one from USA. But thanks all the same. Ken
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By Moz - 13 Years Ago
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hey frank that dissy is great had no problems with it at all have'nt even needed to touch the points yet
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By rick55 - 13 Years Ago
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From my experience here in West Oz if you are using a ProComp dizzy you need a lot of luck. I haven't found one yet that works from new for either Chev or Ford. $100 is more than I would give for one of these pieces of #%*+. Like I said I wish you luck. The reluctors in those dizzies are almost always open circuit.
The only reason you would modify a genuine Windsor dizzy is because the late models are in short supply in Oz. having said that, I got a 59 dizzy through this site several years ago from Paul I think. Sorry if I got that wrong. The killer these days is the postage costs.
The members on this site stateside are always extremely helpful (as is Bill).
Regards
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By pegleg - 13 Years Ago
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I don't remember all the details, maybe Moz can tell you. But all you guys gotta do is ask, we can and will find them. Probably for less than a hundred US. I think I paid 57 bucks for Moz's. you might be able to work out something with Lon or one of the Guys from OZ who comes over for The Y block shhotout last of August. Might save some shipping.
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By Grizzly - 13 Years Ago
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Ken, Your realy closing your options off by not being willing to import things. I've had some large thing come across to Australia for example a radiator, one of my intake manifolds, a dizzy, the other day I had a bendtsen AOD adaptor kit turn up. The American market is extensive and inexpensive. If your worried about using a credit card over the net, get a debit card and only have the cash in the account for the transaction you are doing. With the internet, ebay and the Yanks into fities cars. Parts that weren't available 20 years ago are within your reach and you don't even have to leave home. cheers Warren
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By Kennykiwi - 13 Years Ago
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thanks guys, I wasn't really thinking about "made in china" stuff and was just wanting to experiment a bit and go electronic without too much hassell. Anyways, I do have two points distributors that need rebuilding, ones a FEK12127 that I took out, and the other is a C40E-2127A. I don't mind buying off Ebay and any good directions on what brands or companies to buy from would be appreciated. Cheers Ken
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By Moz - 13 Years Ago
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the dissy that frank got for me was only $ 150.00 landed here & i had no core to swap i couldnt get one rebuilt in geelong at that price & i get trade price & om good mates with an auto electrician. ive had that dissy now for 3 years & never had a hassle with it.
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By charliemccraney - 13 Years Ago
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Kenny,
You can fit duraspark components from a windsor distributor into a Y distributor.
http://www.y-blocksforever.com/forums/Topic21100-3-1.aspx
http://www.y-blocksforever.com/forums/Topic5574-3-1.aspx?
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By rick55 - 13 Years Ago
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Kenny by what you say you already have the the good distributor if the c4oe is a y block. If it is a Windsor it is the best core to convert to a yblock.
Pertronix Accell or Mallory are all good options for electronic conversion.
Regards
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By snowcone - 13 Years Ago
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You guys are making me feel like a dinosaur because I am going to run with a stock dizzy and points.
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By rick55 - 13 Years Ago
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You guys are making me feel like a dinosaur because I am going to run with a stock dizzy and points.
Gary - Australian 1958 Star Customline
Yeah I ran with points for years too, but the conversion to electronic is so easy and the engine sure runs sweeter longer. I like the Accell units. I picked up one from Dan Jessup on this site and another on eBay. My experience with Pertronix was not good - had one fail which I bought locally for big bucks. Once converted you'll never go back.
Regards
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By Kennykiwi - 13 Years Ago
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Thanks once again fellas, I will definately give one of those options a go. Just for fun?? I will get the pro-comp installed now that I've got it, but I will also rebuild the other two as spares just so i can learn a thing or two about doing these conversions. I should have kept reading more of the forums before venturing into the pro-comp but as they say, nothing ventured, nothing gained. I'll update you all in a few weeks time once i've installed it. Ken.
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By Moz - 13 Years Ago
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dont feel like a dinosaur gary i run the stock dissy with points & will probably never change it i find it good to keep my hands steady as a sugeon & a good eyesight check as i get older
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