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i have a 1964 ford f100 with a 292 v-8.  I am curious what is the better move. buy full length headers for the truck or should i get ahold of a set of ram horns????? do they flow the same??? which one is benificial to future power production. thanx guys.
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I doubt that anyone has ever performed dyno test to confirm this, but I have heard that the ramshorns flow as well if not better that some of the cheaper headers. I just like the way they (ramshorns) look on a pickup. Repos are available from John Mummert at a reasonable price, so no need to pay $500 bucks on ebay for a decent set.

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does anyone have the prices on those ramhorn manifolds that john mummert has?????  thinking those might be a better long lasting investment.
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Probably another reason to consider the Rams Horns, is that they will not have the resonance problems often afflicting headers, and they will undoubtedly outlast them by far..

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visit Mummerts Site, it is in the links here.









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i looked at the site.didnt find any prices.  i'll look again.
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John has them priced at $375 a pair in the Jul-Aug issue of Y Block Magazine.

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Well I have ramshorns on my truck and headers on my T bird so I see both sides of the story.  It really depends on how you are going to use the truck. If it is a daily driver and you don't need maximum power then the rammies are a more practical solution.  They will never rust out and don't need to have a high cost finish to keep them intact. BTW I got mine off e pay for less than $300 so watch for a while and see what comes up.  Old ones tend to have rust pits on them though so the new price isn't bad.  If you want maximum high speed power from the motor then headers are the best solution.  But remember that even in bracket racing you don't need maximum power only consistant power.

As far as resonance is concerned both my truck and the T bird have a low speed resonance that I find annoying.  I think that it is a function of the mufflers because I have Dynomax mufflers on both vehicles. Otherwise they sound about the same which is to say pretty good.

I remember reading in some motor test in YBM that the flow of the rammies is about the same as the late model pass car manifolds.  This is probably better than some of the really cheap headers but long tube ones may be better than the rammies.  In order to get the max benifit for the headers the cam should be selected to match.

I like the rammies on my truck much better than the stock setup with that incredably stupid cross over or the somewhat better solution of two right side pass car ex manifolds.  The rammies look right a home and were a big improvement over the stock setup.  But for a cruise-in the long tube headers might impress a little more with the know nothing Scrub crowd.     

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If you call Jerry Christenson he will probably be able to give you numbers on the improvement over the manifolds.  Long tube headers are going to be a definite improvement over either style of cast manifold, but the numbers will depend on the motor they're bolted to and the mufflers and pipes you use. Jerry's long tube (Roadster) headers added almost 50 foot pounds of torque to my F code on the Dyno, over stock passenger car manifolds. However, they only made 7 more horsepower on the top end. Shorter primaries would have added substantially to that figure, at the expense of some low end.

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ok thanks guys. i guess the reason for the question is, I am leaning toward the ramhorn manifolds and i just wanted to make sure I get something that's gonna be benificial.  ya know. thanx for the info.


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