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CK
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As we've previously discussed boring our y blocks to 4" and knowing they split the deck between cylinders. I wonder if the sleeves were all fabricated to a deck plate and pressed in as one.
Therefore the plate would strengthen the deck being re secured by the head bolts/heads. Perhaps .250" plate.
Which would give more stroke length.
What's your thoughts?
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glrbird
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expensive!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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CK, I don't think you were with us when Verne Schumann was setting out to produce an updated, enlarged Y-block. You may wish to dig-into some of the earlier information on this proposed venture.
Below, I've copied a piece of a posting Ted Eaton made about a year ago below that should help you get into this... ________________________
For the proposed iron 4.125” bore capable cylinder wall blocks for the Y, Verne Schumann needs a commitment for 35 or so to make it financially feasible. He’s having difficulty getting that number of commitments but part of the problem has been in getting the word out to the masses. This is something that needs to hit the mainstream publications rather than just a few internet forum boards. Once Verne has enough people interested in blocks, then a finished block could be ready in as little as nine months..If anyone is interested in one of the new iron Y blocks, just give Verne a call and get your name on the list. Here’s the link to the past thread giving some of the more pertinent details. http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/Topic76753.aspx
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NoShortcuts (8/27/2014)
CK, I don't think you were with us when Verne Schumann was setting out to produce an updated, enlarged Y-block. You may wish to dig-into some of the earlier information on this proposed venture.
Below, I've copied a piece of a posting Ted Eaton made about a year ago below that should help you get into this... ________________________
For the proposed iron 4.125” bore capable cylinder wall blocks for the Y, Verne Schumann needs a commitment for 35 or so to make it financially feasible. He’s having difficulty getting that number of commitments but part of the problem has been in getting the word out to the masses. This is something that needs to hit the mainstream publications rather than just a few internet forum boards. Once Verne has enough people interested in blocks, then a finished block could be ready in as little as nine months..If anyone is interested in one of the new iron Y blocks, just give Verne a call and get your name on the list. Here’s the link to the past thread giving some of the more pertinent details. http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/Topic76753.aspx I would like to know based on vernes proposed 35 1st run, the approxamation of the cost of the block, so there may be more interest then, to me its such an unknown factor holding back my interest.
 AussieBill YYYY Forever Y Block YYYY Down Under, Australia
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I copied this from another of Ted's inputs to the thread referenced, AussieBill...
Ted (2/4/2013)
I found this full page info sheet detailing the new Schumann block casting in Y-Block Magazine issue #109. Suggested selling price for the block is $3975. Click on the link below the picture for a larger image that’s easier to read giving more detail on the block. 
Click here for larger image
My recollection is that Verne's price was for a fully machined block, too! 
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No Shortcuts,
Thanks for vernes specification sheet re proposed new block, looks good ! i had thought there was talk of moving cam tunnel higher but this shows will be standard.
AussieBill YYYY Forever Y Block YYYY Down Under, Australia
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CK
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Yet if the sleeves were screwed into the plate, or if a 1/4" plate was introduced which the sleeves rested in. Do you think it would hold the forces?
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As John M pointed out to me, moving the cam position causes other problems, the distributor has to be moved which then causes problems driving the oil pump.
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CK (8/29/2014)
Yet if the sleeves were screwed into the plate, or if a 1/4" plate was introduced which the sleeves rested in. Do you think it would hold the forces?
CK, Ted Eaton, Tim McMaster, and John Mummert (perhaps others) have done everything possible to enlarge an existing Ford y-block to obtain maximum cubic inch displacement. Both Tim and Ted have pursued the sleeving of all eight cylinders. My recollection is that Ted's was to accomplish a 4 inch bore.
An internally redesigned engine block casting, like that proposed by Verne Schumann, is what is called for.
In case you missed it, on 8-16-14 one of our members posted this article regarding John Mummert's latest exploits working within the existing y-block casting form.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/y-block-dyno-day.938305/
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Article summary... John Mummert writes . . ."We took the new 331 cu. in. Y block up to the dyno Tuesday, August 12th,2014. We played with a few things trying to get it ready to stuff into the 64' Falcon." Specifications: 331ci 3.84 bore 3.57 stroke 13.0:1 static compression 1.7:1 rocker arms 254 duration .600 lift camshaft Best dyno pull with the dual plane ported intake manifold . . . 513 hp @ 7100 rpm, 425 tq @ 5200 rpm
Best pull with the single plane intake manifold . . . 532 hp @ 7000 rpm, 438 tq @ 5400 rpm
Components…
- 1959 292 block lightened 10 lbs
- Ported Mummert Aluminum heads
- Ford forged steel truck crank offset ground to Honda rod journal
- Molnar 6.125 c to c rods - Racetec 10cc dome pistons
- Trend tool steel lifters - Smith Bros. pushrods .080" wall Chromalloy w/ 5/16 ball at the bottom for the TREND tool steel lifters - Mummert Billet timing set - MSD distributor - Oil pump stock
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