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duffer
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Is it necessary to run Ethanol gas in our old cars or is it a waste of money?
How many of you run this in your cars.
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NoShortcuts
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IMO ethanol gas is BAD news. The issues related to it are reduced gas mileage (because it has less energy per gallon), phase separation if your vehicle sits for any kind of period of time without being driven, and the ethanol absorbs and holds moisture which will result in corrosion of your o.e.m. gas tank and fuel lines.
Although more expensive, IF you can buy it in your geographic area, even if the octane rating is greater than your engine requires, I would use gasoline WITHOUT the ethanol added.
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LordMrFord
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But you can make more power with it.
Hyvinkää, FI
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Premium fuel is suppose to have less ethanol than the others. I run that in my car and truck and have had no issues related to ethanol. I also run them year round so they don't just sit for months at a time. You can buy an ethanol test kit to test the gas and find a local station that tends to have better gas.
LordMrFord is right, though, if the vehicle is built to take advantage of the ethanol, it is cheap high performance fuel. But it is scarce and most vehicles are not made to take advantage of it which makes it terrible for most stock or nearly stock vehicles.
So no, it is not necessary and if you have easy access to ethanol free gas, use it. Otherwise, use premium and/or don't let it sit, take it out for a drive once or twice a week or more.
Lawrenceville, GA
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LordMrFord
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Yes. E85 with naturally aspired engine under ~11/1 comp ratio is quite useless combination. But with forced induction, its quite hard to find a better choice on racing purpose or on street if you know what to do and know the limits of the stuff like a small corrosion and cold start problems.
Hyvinkää, FI
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charliemccraney (9/12/2014)[hr Otherwise, use premium and/or don't let it sit, take it out for a drive once or twice a week or more.
But here in the Pacific Nortwest it rains almost every day from October to May and there is a good chance that the roads are covered in sand and salt all winter. I don't licence my non daily drivers from November to May.
Here in Vancouver they just opened their first E85 station and it was all over the news that the "Tuners" (I read Honda Owners) were ecstatic because they now don't have to go to Seattle for fuel.
Mark
1956 Mercury M100
1955 Ford Fairlane Club Sedan
Delta, British Columbia
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duffer (9/12/2014)
Is it necessary to run Ethanol gas in our old cars or is it a waste of money?
How many of you run this in your cars.Howdy,
Your question is a bit strange (no offense intended) because the responses you got were largely RACING engine related.
If you're asking about running E-10 (10% ethanol, 90% gasoline) in your daily driver..................It's basically everywhere and I have been running it in everything I own (except my airplane) since it's been available! (no problems so far by the way)
I wouldn't (and DON'T) let it sit in my 454 powered boat for more than a few months. I usually either park it with less than a 1/4 tank (44gal tank) in Aug, then I fill it up in MAY or June and go boating. I don't put any "stuff" in it at all.(other than fresh fuel when I'm ready to use the boat. The boat right now is nearly full so I am going to just siphon most of it out and run it in my cars........
If it bothers you to use E-10, go to http://pure-gas.org/ and find a station near you that sells ethanol free gasoline.
If you're going to use ethanol free gasoline, and you want to be sure what the pump says is accurate, You'll have to test a sample every fill-up to ensure that you are in fact getting ethanol free gas! There's a test kit and instructions at http://www.fuel-testers.com/instructions_alcohol_fuel_test_kit.html
I have never bothered to do it though........... everything I have from old cars to new cars, JD 318 mower, Honda powered pressure washer, Tohatsu 9.8hp 4-stroke OB, Briggs powered generator, etc etc etc........ run on the stuff just fine so I don't bother to test any of the gas I get.......
OTOH, DO NOT run E-15 (which is becoming available ) or E-85 unless you make some rather specific modifications to the engine and fuel system.
Cheers,
Rick
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Here in NJ we have had 10 % for ten years or more (really can't get anything else here). I have run my 56Bird, 54 Ford (312), 48 Ford (302) on it for all this time with zero problems. I don't use any additives or stabilizers. The gas I put in in Oct/Nov still works in April when I take my car out. I do run them once a month during this period. As I said, Ive been doing this for in excess of ten years, no problems..
Do you have to use it - no. If you can find plain gasoline use that, but going to high test just for no ethanol is a waste of money if you don't need it..
54 Victoria 312; 48 Ford Conv 302, 56 Bird 312
Forever Ford
Midland Park, NJ
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paul2748 (9/13/2014)
Here in NJ we have had 10 % for ten years or more (really can't get anything else here). I have run my 56Bird, 54 Ford (312), 48 Ford (302) on it for all this time with zero problems. I don't use any additives or stabilizers. The gas I put in in Oct/Nov still works in April when I take my car out. I do run them once a month during this period. As I said, Ive been doing this for in excess of ten years, no problems..
Me too, however on the advice of a friend I added a fuel stabilizer last winter and this spring my 5 year old fuel gauge no longer worked (not a circuit or ground issue). Several years ago people were having fuel gauge issues, including me, that was ultimately blamed on an additive in Shell gasoline. I stopped using Shell and presto the gauge started working again.
Mark
1956 Mercury M100
1955 Ford Fairlane Club Sedan
Delta, British Columbia
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Daniel Jessup
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ditto on the fuel sending unit ...! For some reason the same thing happened to me. Strange.
Daniel JessupLancaster, California aka "The Hot Rod Reverend" 
check out the 1955 Ford Fairlane build at www.hotrodreverend.com
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