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I went up to Napa Auto parts to get oil for my 56 (312 engine) I told him i wanted Rotella T 15W-40 and he was shocked. "Your not putting that in there are you?" I said yes -He said well, that's your choice- I read on all the Thunderbird sites that this is the correct oil Why do these auto parts people always freek out?
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charliemccraney
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That's diesel oil, right? I wouldn't use that in my gasoline engine, either, particularly when there are plenty of sufficient gasoline engine oils available. One of our own members has observed increased wear when diesel oils are used, when everything else is equal. It's not going to cause harm over night and realistically, for the average use that a Y-block powered vehicle now gets, you will probably not notice any problems whatsoever for as long as you own the vehicle. So in that sense, it really doesn't matter but I don't see the point in using something that is not designed for the engine when there are many options which are designed for it. The cost does not appear to be significantly better, either so there is not really a financial gain.
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Daniel Jessup
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There have been studies done that show that Diesel oil may not be the best choice. We always think it is (and I have used it myself with NO PROBLEMS) because we are guaranteed that it has enough zinc in it to help us with the flat tappets, etc. I doubt if the fella at Napa knows any of that, all he knows is that the label says Diesel and you are going to use it in a gasoline engine car. If you talk about oil choices in Y blocks you will get quite a few posts and people will tap into their "dark side" because opinions vary on this (and so does the science for that matter). Use what you know will work with a motor that has mechanical lifters. .
Daniel JessupLancaster, California aka "The Hot Rod Reverend"  check out the 1955 Ford Fairlane build at www.hotrodreverend.com
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2721955meteor
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The guy at napa is correct,rotela t has a brake down# of720022psi, no molley to much zink to much phos,and is desighned for diesel engines. useing low sulpher fuel. when i worked for cat dealer who was a shell dealer we wher sent a reminder rotela t not to be used in gas engines,especialley flat tappet cams. tho that was 14year ago when i retired for example castrol gtx conventional has breakdown # 96524 psi 94pm moly zink 619ppm phos754.this is current tests re a lab in ca. orylyes house brand is91433 psi at 3.99 pr quart talk to the hotrod reverend i sent him pack o 20 pages of test results and info onadetives etc
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Riz
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I have always used a bottle of Rislone at oil changes. At best is specifies it has additional ZDDP. At worst I waste $8 a year. Doubt it could hurt the motor-it hasn't yet.
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paul2748
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I use Rotella 15/40,ever since I had my 56 Bird and my 54 (312). No problems. Lots of mileage on the Bird. I also use Castrol GTX20/50 in another car (302), only because I have done so for the last 30 years Plenty of ZDDP in both.. Until somebody like Ted says not to, I will continue.
54 Victoria 312; 48 Ford Conv 302, 56 Bird 312 Forever Ford Midland Park, NJ
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slumlord444
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This has been kicked around for a long time. I Rotella is bad, what is good?
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steinauge
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Oil preference is sort of like religion or politics,you will get a LOT of different opinions! I have used Castrol 20-50 in all my cars for thirty plus years with no problems.I change oil and filter at 3000 mile intervals except in the hot rod.I do it at 1500 miles.JMO.
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charliemccraney
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It's really not opinion. Look at the TSD for a given oil and you see what's in it. Or ask your favorite oil brand what they recommend for a flat tappet gasoline engine.
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2721955meteor
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56Roger (9/26/2014)
One of the best car forums I ever took part in had a rule that many sites would do well to copy. NO POSTS ABOUT WHICH MOTOR OIL IS BEST. The moderators would delete them immediately.
Already on this thread there have been dubious statements of "truth" for which there is no verifiable proof and no way to provide such.
The way I learned it as a teenager about 45 years ago is that if the oil is green and the can says "SAE" on the top it's good enough. The main thing, by far, is that you've GOT oil. That was from a former Air Force jet mechanic turned factory trained Porsche/VW mechanic, to this day one of the top three or so mechanics I have ever known. I worked with him for seven or eight years. Everything else I learned from him has held up since then and I still believe what he said about oil as well. There have been some changes to motor oil over the years for sure but basically all of it is pretty good, just as he said long ago..
The Rotella oils have been around so long there must be billions of very successful miles logged using them. I probably have about a million miles myself between diesel AND gas. Someone (with a verrrry small sample size) comes out and says Rotella is no good for this reason or that and now suddenly it's no good. Really? (That a rhetorical question. I'll have no further comments.)
edit: OK I lied. One more short comment. These days much of what you read (or DON'T READ) from the manufacturers of all products is the lawyers talking. "We never said that" is just as important as "We said it's only for this" if they wind up in court for whatever reason, even if it makes no sense. They are doing what the lawyers are telling them to cover themselves prior to any trouble. Sign of the times.
you should read the post, I did not say rotella oil was bad,I did say rotella t is desighned for modern diesel engines to inter act with low sulpher fuel. the inf i showed is not opinion but facts from a lab known for good work . in my work life i have bin certified in failure analisis by catterpillar, and witnessed many engine failure due to incorect oils regarding engine load and envirement. as far as yblocks a good percent of them do no work and just go out on nice days . even a dyno test only tells what the real power and vitals are at time of test. real world use is often verry diferent .
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