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cc's of 239 ebu head

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Anybody know the cc's of a 239 ebu head? I'm getting restless.

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Dennis: Did you try linking to J. Mummerts Head specs sheet? It might be there..

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I'd like to put bigger heads on, but I don't know how much compression would suffer.

I guess we'll have to pull a head and measure.

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Dennis: I don't have any hands on experience with 239s, (they weren't sold in Canada in 1954) however interchange of parts is limited, according to Eickman's Y-block book, ( however the book isn't without mistakes) depending to some extent on where the engine was manufactured etc. Is your block an EBV truck engine ? Manufactured where? Cleveland or Dearborn ? According to Bruce Young at YBM, dealing with interchange of parts can be a Hornet's nest on those engines. Sorry I can't be any more helpful. Also the Y-Blk cylinder head chart does not show the cc for the EBU head, but the intake valves are the smallest 1.64 " & compression ratio was advertised at 7.2 / 1.

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Mine's a Dearborn EBU. I'm hoping we can get around the leaking problems. My bore is now 3.625

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Dennis.  Is there a suffix on that casting number?.  Also, does it use the 14mm or 18mm sparkplugs?.  If I have that casting laying loose, I’ll just cc a chamber for you.

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Ted, I pulled the rocker covers. Here's the numbers inside EBU 6090 A1 date code 42S. It uses a small plug like a lawnmower with a washer. Thanks if you can help.



There was also a fomoco script inside an oval. Very fine detail,I was surprised they went to that much trouble.

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Dennis:

I made some rough calculations that have some variables in them, so the results are only indications of what will happen when you use different heads.  I didn't calculate the CCs of the 239 heads, since I don't have any figures for other heads either.

When you took your 239 out to 256, you took the compression ratio to 7.7.  With '55 2 barrel heads, you would have 7.1.  With '55 4 barrel heads, 8.1.  With '56 ECZ-C heads, 7.36.  With '60-'62 passenger heads, 7.7, but you are back to the '54 size valves.  Remember, these are all BALLPARK numbers, not actual measurements.  I don't remember, is your intake a '54 or a later one?  Is this the leak you are trying to fix?  Also, there may be some water passage issues when putting later heads on a '54.  Ford used to make a special head gasket for this swap.  I assume that making sure there are holes in the gasket where needed would be all that is needed.  I once put late steel shim gaskets on a 239 and water leaked into the cylinders.  Composition gaskets solved that problem.  If you have the '54 intake, a change to a later one would make good sense if you change heads.  Also, as a rule of thumb, Y heads can be milled .060 with relative safety.  The intake surface of the head needs to be milled about 1.4 times the amount taken off the head surface.  Hope this helps.

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John, I was concerned with water leaks with bigger heads. I have a 54 3x2 on now. [no air or water leaks] I also have a big port 3x2 and a 4 barrel B intake.Also C and G heads.

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John,

     How much does he gain cutting his C heads .060? I thought those were fairly good flowing heads.

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