Hello all,

Newbie here with a question. My 56 Vicky / 292 has a Holley Teapot on it. I am wondering (if I was to decide to do this), what carb and intake could I use if I wanted to get away from the teapot? I also believe I would need to go to a 57 dizzy with single vacuum advance too?

Thanks!!

Kevin

1956 Ford Fairlane Victoria 292 Fordomatic

  
Webb City, Missouri

Yes - you would have to go with a later (57 and up) distributor if you go with a later carb.

You can use your stock intake.  Jegs, Summitt sell adapters to go from the old  bolt pattern to the newer one.  Or you could go with a 57 or later intake.  If your engine is stock, stick with a 500 or smaller CFM carb.


54 Victoria 312;  48 Ford Conv 302, 56 Bird 312
Forever Ford
Midland Park, NJ

Thank you! I appreciate the information!

Kevin

1956 Ford Fairlane Victoria 292 Fordomatic

  
Webb City, Missouri

Here is the adapter you will need. They are on eBay fairly often.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NOS-Offenhauser-WCFB-Rochestor-4-jet-4-barrel-to-modern-holley-edelbrock-adaptor-/181417883536?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a3d593790

A 465 Holley works well on a fairly standard engine.


South Australia

It may be more money, but I will tell you to go with a Mummert aluminum manifold! It is twice the intake manifold, even over the stock 57 intake! (not to mention HUGE weight savings!!!) 

I love the smell of burning rubber in the morning!

Kevin: You didn't indicate if there is a problem with the original Holley teapot. Is there?


Paul

I ditched the teapots on my 312's in favor of a Holley 600 for each car. Took stock jetting down from 65's to 62's , the cars are responsive, idle clean and with electric chokes start immediately when cold. By removing the teapot and the Load O Matic distributor the car will feel like it picked some horse power too.
Do an eBay search for "Holley factory refurbished carburetors   " and you will find some great deals on 600's direct from Holley. In most cases $100.00 cheaper than summit prices.

Hi Paul,

Sorry for the delay, I am just now getting on the forum today. Well yes and no, and let me explain. Once we got some other things lined out it seems to be doing better. The teapot was rebuilt by Mike Suter a few months back (the PO sent it to Mike), and now that I am getting more familiar with my car (just bought it in September and got it picked up and brought home in October). this whole thing with my car has turned out to be quite a fiasco.

 Here's the deal. I bought this car from a guy in Virginia Beach named Charlie Dawson, goes by pungion on eBay. The engine had "supposedly" just been rebuilt at Magnum Machine shop in Chesapeake, VA and had been driven 250 miles. I am not quite sure what engine the invoice he gave me goes to, but I am fairly certain it didn't go with my 292. When I got the car home it had a hesitation and several oil leaks, one of which was the rear main. When we pulled the pan, there was still sludge in the bottom!

Well, this Charlie has his own mechanic that pulled the engine for the rebuilt and then reienstalled it in the car and apparently had several things jacked up.

The car had a hesitation when taking off from a stop and got to where it was backfiring in the carburetor. Come to find out, the timing was really retarded. There was a taping coming from the right head and as it turns out, the valve lash was wrong so my mechanic (JT) re-ran the valves and set them at .21 My mechanic told me that there was old carbon build up around the rear valve and it was not getting oil and was starting to gauld, so I am sure glad I didn't drive the car much more.

JT used a pic and removed the carbon and the valve is getting adequate oil now. He also set the mixture screws using the vacuum gauge and with car in drive as Mike Suter suggested, and he got the timing straightened out as well where it is around .10 or .11 initial and .36 overall. 

The 56 ran so good on the way home a week ago Thursday that I didn't think it was the same car!  I drove it about 120 miles a week ago today and then after it seemed to be flooding in fact when I went to start it last Sunday, I had gas coming out the top of the carburetor and it made a sizable puddle on my shop floor under my car which I quickly mopped up.

I took needle / seat plug out and blew that area out with air, and noticed some rust particles lying in the float bowl which I cleaned out and I am suspecting are coming from the gas tank. Once cleaned out and put back together, the carburetor did not flood again and seems to be running pretty well. I believe a piece of rust got under the needle and wouldn't allow it to shut the gas off.

I am going to replace the fuel tank and stop that issue. My car has a Ford-o-matic tranny but there is no dash pot on it and now that things are getting lined out with the car, it seems that it almost wants to die when I put the car in drive or reverse.

The car still has a little hesitation but I have another dual vacuum advance coming that I am going to trade out with the one that is currently on the car and see if that cures the rest of the hesitation issue.
So, I apologize for the editorial, but I am just tossing around the idea of going to a different set up so the car is reliable and dependable but I may not need to once everything is lined out.

Kevin




1956 Ford Fairlane Victoria 292 Fordomatic

  
Webb City, Missouri

First if you haven't done so.. install a new fuel filter. Check your idle speed, it may be to slow when in gear, but I doubt that the  dash pot has any effect there. My car doesn't even have one, and it hasn't been a problem.


Paul

My 56 Vic came with the stock Holley also and it too was "overhauled". (engine too but that was true) I did not want to keep the old carb as our family had problems with them in the 50's. I installed a 1953 Cadillac Carter WCFB which was a bolt on.   Minor work was needed for the linkage, a fuel line, choke heater tube and the vacuum line for the distributor. I installed a 57-up distributor at that time too. I even made the stock air cleaner work. I can e-mail you photos if you like. None of this was difficult. The car performs flawless. I installed a 1/4" phenolic plate under it.

The carb was bought from a reputable local carb shop who seems to have a few of these older units. It was for a 331" engine of lower compression so it was a good fit. A 1953 Oldsmobile would be better as it's a 303". Carter small base WCFB's were used on Cads,  Buicks,  Olds,  Packards,  Plymouths, Dodges, Studebakers, and some 1956 Mercury's if you want one for the Loadmatic distributor. All these flow between 350 and 400 CFM according to the "experts" on stuff like that.

I've now installed dual quads using matched WCFB's from the 53 Olds and they work great. A lot more work however. Good Luck..
PS: Good looking 56 Vic.... 




56 Vic, B'Ville 200 MPH Club Member, So Cal.