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Ted
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Steve (1/19/2015)
When I get my Ebay gerotor pump I'd like to check the tolerances. Presumably there are maximum clearances allowed between the inner and outer rotors, the outer rotor and the body and the end float. Do you happen to know what these tolerances are? The gerotor blueprint specs are buried within this older Y-Block Magazine article. http://www.eatonbalancing.com/blog/2014/09/19/hi-volume-oil-pump-for-the-y/ Here is also a link to a past thread regarding oil pump blueprint specs on this site. http://forums.y-blocksforever.com/FindPost22736.aspx
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Steve
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Perfect. Thanks so much. I'll post up the numbers when I get it taken apart. It will be interesting to compare the oil pressure between the two pumps. My gear type pump with 15w-40 rotella generates 60 psi hot on the freeway and about 20 psi at 750 rpm idle. I'm not looking for more pressure, but hoping to reduce the pump noise and a bit of a rough idle after the oil pressure comes up after a hot re-start.
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The pump I received from Ebay checked out with tolerances all at the upper limit. The main bore inside the pump and the inside of the cover plate look quite good with no scoring. So I went ahead and bought the Melling K56 repair kit which comes with the inner and outer rotors, the pressure relief spring and the gaskets. The photo shows the condition of the outer rotor right out of the box. Obvious wear marks as if it has been run plus some pretty bad dings. I was hoping to get the truck back on the road this weekend, but now have to wait for another kit to see if it's any better that the first one!
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Steve. Not sure where you got your Melling K-56 kit from but you’re running into a problem that’s becoming more frequent as time goes on. And that problem is the old parts being turned back into the stores in their new boxes by unscrupulous buyers who are simply turning the old parts back in for refund or credit as new parts not used. The contents within those boxes are obviously not being checked by the stores when being received back which has those used parts going back into stock and hence, being resold as new parts. It has become necessary to simply check many of the items as soon as they are received to insure that the new parts are indeed new.
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Steve
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Ted- Exactly my thought. I checked the contents in the store (Autozone !), and decided to hang on to this kit until I see the second one I ordered. Hopefully the second one will contain all parts in new condition. I guess I could pick the best bits for the two sets, and then return the bad set as "defective". As you imply though, there is a high likelihood that the kit containing the damaged parts will simply be put right back into circulation.
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A difference exists between the original outer rotor and the new Melling in that the new one lacks the cut-out in the outside surface. Is the intent for this slot to allow an oil supply to be available between the inside surface of the pump body and the rotor?
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FWIW there is a permatex product called "the right stuff" that works better than ANY product I have ever used on pan gaskets.
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Steve
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The pump is back together now, and the pan has no leak at all. I used a Best gasket and a sealer called "Dirko" which I used on the rebuild of a VW motor I just finished. It's a very good product, and the tube even comes with a small plastic tool that fits on the end that allows one to roll the tube up very tightly from the end. I coated the bottom of the block, and the pan rail with a thin coat. I put thread sealer on the main retainer studs too. The oil pressure with my old gear pump using 15w-40 Rotella was 70 psi cold and 55-60 psi hot at 3,000 rpm, and was a noisy 20-25 psi hot at 700 rpm. With 10w-40 Bradd Penn oil the rotor pump puts out 60 psi cold and 50 psi hot at 3,000 rpm and about 15-20 psi hot at 700 rpm. The pump is quiet.
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Steve. I feel your pain with the noise generated from some of those spur gear oil pumps. The one on my ’55 Customline has a nice clicking noise at idle and if not knowing what it was, I’d be concerned. As it is, the engine has over a quarter of a million miles on it now and I’ve learned to live with it. But when the time comes, I will change it over to a gerotor style of oil pump.
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Steve (1/25/2015)
A difference exists between the original outer rotor and the new Melling in that the new one lacks the cut-out in the outside surface. Is the intent for this slot to allow an oil supply to be available between the inside surface of the pump body and the rotor?  So, What about that slot?
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