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T85 overdrive rear gear ratio

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What would be the optimum rear gear ratio for a 292 with a T85 OD? I'm going to go through my Dana 44 in my wagon while I am doing the engine swap. I finally found and bought the T85 OD I've been looking for so it is going in too.

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3.89 to 4.11 were the usual axle ratios in OD cars. The OD effectively reduces those figures by 30%, so a 3.89 becomes a 2.72; a 4.11 becomes a 2.877. I wouldn't go any taller than a 3.89; you want to keep the engine RPM in the fat part of the torque curve when you're in OD on the highway.
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In my 55 crown i ran 3.78 with od, in my 57 I had 3.70 , both cars came from the factory with these gears 
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62bigwindow.  All good thoughts from others.  Several variables to consider...
- tire size
- engine cubic inches (engine torque)... a stock 292 has more basic grunt than a 272, but less than a 312. 
- engine camshaft (horsepower and torque curve)... stock or degree of performance (lift, duration, overlap, lobe center angle).
- engine compression ratio... makes a difference in pulling ability.
- intended use (type of driving... stop-and-go [city], terrain [hills or flat], highway [elevated rpm], vehicle weight, and loading expectations

The T-85s have a 2.49:1 1st gear ratio...
1st gear is not synchronized when down shifting...
The T-85 R-11 overdrives drop the final drive output ratio from 1:1 to 0.72:1 
Borg Warner intended the overdrive to only be used with the tranny in 3rd gear.  


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In my mis spent youth, I put a Dana 44 with a 4:27-1 rear from a 6 cyl. O/D wagon. 312 motor, T-85 O/D, 27+" tire. In a 55 bird, so it was a little lighter. That was a nice ratio, had enough torque in 2nd to avoid having to double clutch to low all the time.

Dana ratios are a little different than 9". The other thing to watch, if you're thinking posi, the carrier changes at around 3.7 or so. I can't recall exactly, but one carrier for that down, and other for up.

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Thanks guys. I think I will try the 3.89. My engine is warmed over with 9:1 comp and a mid range cam with mild porting on the heads with bigger valves. It should be around 275-290 hp. Most if not all the driving will be highway with some town driving. The tire size is 670-15. I plan on replacing everything including the axles and stepping up to a limited slip diff.

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You might find something I missed, but what I found was 3.73, or 3.92. That's also the break point on the posi carrier. I've got the 3.73 in the car now, as I was too cheap to change the posi to do the 3.92. I had to go look it all up, can't trust the memory anymore.


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How well so you like the 3.73? Are you running overdrive?

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Don't have a Dana so I used 3.89 in my 9". I live in hilly terrain so that gear works great and cruises on the hiway with ease when in OD..
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You need a 4.11 or higher numerically in a wagon from my experience.


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