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I am about to rebuild my engine and the term 'zero deck' has been used here. Could someone explain the why and how. Couldn't this cause things to "not fit right " on down the line. and wouldn't pop-up pistons be a better option to increase C/R?

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Ok, this is some Harley-D mumbling but it explains a lot...
http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/squishcalc1.html

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Some more...
http://www.fordmuscle.com/calculators/compression.shtml

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Buzz:

Did you get my reply to your PM?

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Buzz (8/6/2008)
I am about to rebuild my engine and the term 'zero deck' has been used here. Could someone explain the why and how. Couldn't this cause things to "not fit right " on down the line. and wouldn't pop-up pistons be a better option to increase C/R?

‘Zero deck’ simply means machining the decks so that they are even with the piston tops.  If using composition head gaskets, then there is some latitude in that you’d need to machine the decks approximately 0.020” just to get the heads where they sit back in the stock location again or they would be sitting that much too high without the machining.  Because of manufacturing variances when these blocks were originally machined, going back and remachining the decks insures that both decks will be at the same heights instead of lopsided or different from side to side and end to end which will then put each piston at the same deck clearance.

 

Besides machining the decks for a compression ratio increase, they are also machined more for maintaining minimum quench thus reducing the propensity for detonation if the quench area was overly large to begin with.  Domed pistons can push the compression ratio too high for the available pump fuel depending upon the head and piston combination being used.

Lorena, Texas (South of Waco)


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J,

no I never got a reply, I figured i had messed up and you didn't get my PM.

oh well...computers are nice but sometimes they're a bit frustrating

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Buzz:

Sorry you didn't get the PM.  Maybe I did something wrong.  Anyway, I basically said the same thing Ted did, and added that I highly recommend doing it.

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thanks everyone...lots of good info...

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I'm getting a block decked. The machinist asked for the block deck height. When I add up the rod length (6.324) compression height (1.768) and half the stroke (1.65) I get 9.742". I had the impression that the stock pistons were .020 in the hole. Nominal deck height of stock block is 9.762"? That doesn't sound right.

Best regards,



Paul Menten

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Paul,

    if you want a "Zero deck height" it would be best to mock up the engine and measure the distance the pistons you are using are down in the hole, then deck accordingly.  Also find out if your machinist is using a surfacer that will square the block and get equal distance from the center line. It's not mandatory but the best way to go. Some guys just copy the old deck and they are not all square.

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